If the wires are tight in your proposed in & out configuration they could limit the tower from bending in the middle, but it's still free to pivot on the base.  The steel being free to bend right now must absorb some of the lateral force, and you'd instead be transferring all that force into the base.

I think it would reduce, but not eliminate lateral movement, but it would increase stress at the point where the guy wires are attached to the base.

I think you'd be better with the sidewalk guy.

I'm not an engineer, but I play one on TV.


On 12/21/2020 10:50 PM, Craig House wrote:
Yeah  So sidewalk guys is kind of what I was considering but using the base of the tower with a turnbuckle instead.

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For utility poles, they have what is called a sidewalk guy.  Or at grain elevators, if they can’t put the guy anchor far enough out, they will sink an I-beam and attach the guy to the top of that.

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Do they make tower struts? I would think rigid enough struts would probably be massive and so heavy that the down force would exceed the base load, but what do I know. Probably would cost less to put up a self supporting tower at that point anyway

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:20 PM Craig House <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The attached drawing is rough but I hope you get the idea.  It is
    not the tower in questions but is a photo I had I could mark up

    I have a customer that has a tower in the very corner of their
    yard  90 degree angle corner.  Best I can get in the yard is one
    guy wire and the neighbor is not an option to put guy wires in. 
    25g 50' tall.  I'd like to make it more stable but how?   The base
    is in concrete and has been there for some time.  Heavy winds have
    not caused damage to the tower so it is not about how solid it is
    as much as how much it moves Would a guy wire design where all
    three legs were guyed back to the base of the tower using some
    kind of stand off in the middle do anything?  I think it might
    make the tower more rigid but would it keep it from swaying? 
    Since some of the unstableness of the tower comes from the joints
    it seems like it might help but is it worth the effort?  I maybe
    could move out 3' from the base but that angle just doesn't do
    much more than attaching to the base just above the concrete.
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