We live in a part of the country where it’s still considered your property to 
do what you want with for the most part.  These are very rural areas.  They 
sometimes still settle family disputes by who goes missing 

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> On Dec 21, 2020, at 22:43, Craig House <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Zoning Lol. What’s that? 
> 
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> > On Dec 21, 2020, at 22:41, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm a little surprised he can put a tower so close to the neighbor's 
> > property.
> > 
> > In some places aren't you required to have it the height of the tower away, 
> > so if the tower falls, it falls entirely on your own land? Not sure if 
> > that's a zoning or insurance requirement.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 10:09 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stabilizing an Unguyed tower
> > 
> > Three feet is about how far sidewalk guys go. Literally across a sidewalk.
> > 
> > On 12/21/2020 10:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
> > > Its pretty much right in the corner of the yard. Maybe 2-3' at best. 
> > > The pic I sent was not the tower. This pic is of a 55g that is in a 
> > > concrete base. I chose it to try to draw the guy wire idea on because 
> > > it is on my computer already and I dont have a pic of the actual tower
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:50:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stabilizing an Unguyed tower
> > >
> > > How many feet of space do you actually have on the closest side of the 
> > > tower. And what's the deal with that large base plate?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:49 PM Craig House <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > >> Its not about comfort on the tower as much as it is trying to keep the 
> > >> link stable. Plus it is a pain to align since turning a wrench moves the 
> > >> tower. So AF24 and and MM wave gear is near impossible to align. I'm 
> > >> always about trying to figure out a way to resolve something like this. 
> > >> I like the engineering challenge but this one has me a bit baffled.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]>
> > >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:42:12 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stabilizing an Unguyed tower
> > >>
> > >> Just make him rent a lift when you need to service it. Not your fault 
> > >> he build a sketchy tower. I think your proposed guy wires would do 
> > >> little improve climber comfort and zero to improve actual safety.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:20 PM Craig House <[email protected]> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> The attached drawing is rough but I hope you get the idea. It is 
> > >>> not the tower in questions but is a photo I had I could mark up
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a customer that has a tower in the very corner of their yard 90 
> > >>> degree angle corner. Best I can get in the yard is one guy wire and the 
> > >>> neighbor is not an option to put guy wires in. 25g 50' tall. I'd like 
> > >>> to make it more stable but how? The base is in concrete and has been 
> > >>> there for some time. Heavy winds have not caused damage to the tower so 
> > >>> it is not about how solid it is as much as how much it moves Would a 
> > >>> guy wire design where all three legs were guyed back to the base of the 
> > >>> tower using some kind of stand off in the middle do anything? I think 
> > >>> it might make the tower more rigid but would it keep it from swaying? 
> > >>> Since some of the unstableness of the tower comes from the joints it 
> > >>> seems like it might help but is it worth the effort? I maybe could move 
> > >>> out 3' from the base but that angle just doesn't do much more than 
> > >>> attaching to the base just above the concrete. Thoughts?--
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