Exactly, you need to factor in DOD and life cycles for LiFePo4 to win but when you do it can win by a lot, specially if you don't need to consider charging below freezing and so don't need a heat source.   With batteries of 200Ah at 12v going for $900 with a usable capacity in deep discharge without damage performing twice an AGM and no acid, it quickly becomes a real solution.

On 1/26/21 3:07 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
In our consideration of chemistries they are identical in price considering DOD, once you factor in total life/cycles the sla batteries start to look very expensive.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:29 PM Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Technically, a lithium battery (pretty much all types of lithium
    batteries) have a higher storage capacity than SLA batteries of "the
    same size". For example, a 12V 100AH SLA battery only has ~~ 600
    watt-hours of usable power, while a 12V 100AH lithium battery is
    closer
    to 1000 watt-hours of power. Not twice as much, but approximately
    60% more.


    bp
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    On 1/26/2021 1:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
    > I would be interested if it had better longevity and cost the
    same per watt as AGM.
    >
    > But I don't think that's the case?
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: AF <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:42 PM
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    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
    >
    > Need more variables than that to make the case for Lithium, such
    as cycles...  Or depth of discharge...
    >
    > On 01/26/2021 07:59 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    >> Better pricing per watt than Northstar?  Low.
    >> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
    >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:34 AM
    >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
    >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
    >>
    >> Some of our reasons:
    >>
    >> -Theft deterrence ( rack mount unit looks like a server)
    >>
    >> -Lower Weight
    >>
    >> -Easier to swap or add capacity
    >>
    >> -Lower voltage tolarence=longer runtimes
    >>
    >> -We are seeing better pricing vs Northstar Blue
    >>
    >> *From: *AF <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF
    >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> *Date: *Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:30 AM
    >> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
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    >> *Cc: *Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
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    >> Curious as to why the move. AGM will last for 20 years and is among
    >> the lowest $/watt.  Or has that changed?
    >>
    >> *From:*Gino A. Villarini
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    >> *Sent:*Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:06 AM
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    >> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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    >> *Subject:*[AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
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    >> Collegues
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    >> Any reliable source for these batt packs?  WE are moving away from
    >> traditional AGM and gel to Lithium.
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