yes, bms. (batt mgmt system)

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 5:23 PM Jason McKemie <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Do the batteries typically have some sort of charge regulator integrated
> so that a special charger isn't necessary?
>
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Exactly, you need to factor in DOD and life cycles for LiFePo4 to win but
>> when you do it can win by a lot, specially if you don't need to consider
>> charging below freezing and so don't need a heat source.   With batteries
>> of 200Ah at 12v going for $900 with a usable capacity in deep discharge
>> without damage performing twice an AGM and no acid, it quickly becomes a
>> real solution.
>>
>> On 1/26/21 3:07 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>
>> In our consideration of chemistries they are identical in price
>> considering DOD, once you factor in total life/cycles the sla batteries
>> start to look very expensive.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:29 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Technically, a lithium battery (pretty much all types of lithium
>>> batteries) have a higher storage capacity than SLA batteries of "the
>>> same size". For example, a 12V 100AH SLA battery only has ~~ 600
>>> watt-hours of usable power, while a 12V 100AH lithium battery is closer
>>> to 1000 watt-hours of power. Not twice as much, but approximately 60%
>>> more.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 1/26/2021 1:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>>> > I would be interested if it had better longevity and cost the same per
>>> watt as AGM.
>>> >
>>> > But I don't think that's the case?
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:42 PM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
>>> >
>>> > Need more variables than that to make the case for Lithium, such as
>>> cycles...  Or depth of discharge...
>>> >
>>> > On 01/26/2021 07:59 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>> >> Better pricing per watt than Northstar?  Low.
>>> >> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:34 AM
>>> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
>>> >>
>>> >> Some of our reasons:
>>> >>
>>> >> -Theft deterrence ( rack mount unit looks like a server)
>>> >>
>>> >> -Lower Weight
>>> >>
>>> >> -Easier to swap or add capacity
>>> >>
>>> >> -Lower voltage tolarence=longer runtimes
>>> >>
>>> >> -We are seeing better pricing vs Northstar Blue
>>> >>
>>> >> *From: *AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF
>>> >> <[email protected]>
>>> >> *Date: *Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:30 AM
>>> >> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> >> *Cc: *Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
>>> >>
>>> >> Curious as to why the move. AGM will last for 20 years and is among
>>> >> the lowest $/watt.  Or has that changed?
>>> >>
>>> >> *From:*Gino A. Villarini
>>> >>
>>> >> *Sent:*Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:06 AM
>>> >>
>>> >> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> >>
>>> >> *Subject:*[AFMUG] 48V 100AH Lithium Batts source?
>>> >>
>>> >> Collegues
>>> >>
>>> >> Any reliable source for these batt packs?  WE are moving away from
>>> >> traditional AGM and gel to Lithium.
>>> >>
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