I did that in the beginning, I like that about them. But not a var, hence the liability on me
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 11:35 PM Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote: > You can always double check your order with Ken before placing it. I did > that and asked many questions to be sure I was ordering the right stuff. > > I consider Ken to be the VAR for aviat being he works for them. He's very > responsive and helpful. > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 10:16 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Im.not complaining, I prefer the store, but if you're accustomed to var >> doing all that stuff there is a curve, especially if theres an issue with a >> path. >> I call a var, I say I need a link from x coordinate to y coordinate, >> router port to router port. I get back a quote. I approve the quote. I wait >> for my gear. 2 calls or emails. >> >> The difference is I have to wait on the VAR. The quote is only good for a >> period. With self serve it's nice, run a path in their tool, meet my 9s, >> export it and send it to commsearch. When they submit it I can order at >> whim, including at 3am. I really like that. But it does take more steps. I >> missed a detail on a copolar link, didnt realize at the time I needed a >> coupler radio, not an OMT. >> Went to prep the install and couldnt configure both channels. Got angry >> and took it out on aviat. >> Ultimately I had to submit an FCC modification since the model number >> changed, that's somewhat pricey. >> >> Difference here is the cost was all on me, through a VAR they would have >> eaten the FCC cost. But the price difference with VAR markup would have >> cost me more than the self service and the self correction. >> >> This was a cluster because it wasnt a standard sub band so the new >> equipment had to actually be built to order. >> >> These are just some of the things that can happen without a VAR. >> >> I really love the preterm fiber options though. >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 9:09 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> we just email Liz @ intelipath about where we need a link, she tells us >>> what's available, I can login and order a link on the aviat store in ten >>> minutes, I find the self service refreshing and the parts lists are very >>> easy to understand, they will display all of the matching antennas and >>> relevant accessories. I don't have anything bad to say. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 7:05 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It's like 10x faster in microsoft edge than in chrome, same with aviat >>>> store. >>>> You get 1.4 GB on 80 mhz. Comparable to the integra x. The latency is a >>>> magnitude higher, about half a millisecond, almost negligible. >>>> The interface is much more intuitive and user friendly than SAF, that's >>>> not a SAF bash at all, we would still be running SAF and bought a ton of >>>> SAF last year if Ken hadn't sold us all those radios of the truck so cheap. >>>> >>>> No VAR channel is really something you need to be prepared for if >>>> you're accustomed to it. It's not that they dont have decent sales, but it >>>> is a self service design. You need to ask a lot of questions and the store >>>> is getting better. It still has way too much stuff with no description. If >>>> the third party stuff had mfg part numbers it would be better to be able to >>>> go reference. >>>> Doing the license stuff through commsearch directly is a learning >>>> experience in itself, that was something the VAR handled for us before. But >>>> it's worth learning anyway. I really didnt understand what I thought I did, >>>> I thought we were licensing links. Nope, transmitters. It made it way >>>> easier to comprehend when we had to sign off on bucking (I think that's >>>> what they called it) we caused ourselves having so many links in proximity. >>>> >>>> I still think SAF is a taller product by a pinch, aviat was close >>>> enough that it came to cost and really nothing else. >>>> It's also layer1 aggregation which is hawt, our integras and lumina >>>> were not, that's a pita, but I believe integrax is >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:37 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The UI is very easy and functional. The networking config is dead >>>>> simple. A bit slow, but it's being fixed in a new firmware. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 7:01 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> what is the user interface for aviat like? i assume useable and easy >>>>>> since a lot of you like them. we are used to SAF which has been rock >>>>>> solid. >>>>>> >>>>>> what speeds are the radios pushing in an 80Mhz channel pair? >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sean Heskett* >>>>>> >>>>>> *ZIRKEL * >>>>>> *Internet • WiFi • Phone • TV* >>>>>> 970-871-8500 x100 - Office >>>>>> Website <http://www.zirkel.us/> | Facebook >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ZIRKEL/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:54 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> most of our aviat is xpic, no real issues to note. price is sketchy >>>>>>> cheap, i sometimes think that we arent actually buying from aviat and >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> ken rupple just keeps stealing stuff off their trucks and selling it to >>>>>>> us. >>>>>>> I dont care, best set of speakers i ever had came of the back of a >>>>>>> truck. >>>>>>> We have 8 links we bought last year. we are running out of sites to put >>>>>>> them at. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 5:23 PM Tim Hardy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whatever you end up with, make sure to pay attention to system >>>>>>>> gain. It is absolutely critical for modulations above 512 QAM.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Aviat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our link is solid >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:02 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ahh they can do two channel xpic with bridgewater? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 2:00 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I thought Aviat was the bits/hertz king? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:53 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd agree with that. If one 80mhz XPIC is all that's available, >>>>>>>>>>> it's hard to beat Aviat. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But if you have two adjacent channels available, you can close >>>>>>>>>>> to double the capacity with the Bridgewaves. If I remember >>>>>>>>>>> correctly, SIAE >>>>>>>>>>> can do the same thing, but it'll cost quite a bit more. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:56 PM Jason McKemie < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll follow that up by saying that if you only have one 80MHz >>>>>>>>>>>> xpic channel available then I'd go with Aviat. I've got my first >>>>>>>>>>>> link from >>>>>>>>>>>> them going up soon. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, Jason McKemie < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you've got the spectrum available I don't think anything >>>>>>>>>>>>> can come close to Bridgewave's Navigator, at least not without >>>>>>>>>>>>> buying >>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple radios. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the latest and greatest highest capacity 11Ghz radio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone is in love with? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking for a friend ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sean Heskett* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *ZIRKEL * >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Internet • WiFi • Phone • TV* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 970-871-8500 x100 - Office >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website <http://www.zirkel.us/> | Facebook >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ZIRKEL/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Darin Steffl >>>>>>>> Minnesota WiFi >>>>>>>> www.mnwifi.com >>>>>>>> 507-634-WiFi >>>>>>>> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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