The Navigator is the only dual core radio on the market that will do 4x80Mhz 
using 2 cores, everything else is 2x80Mhz (or whatever channel width you use). 
The navigator has the restrictions we have talked about before regarding the 
channels having to be directly adjacent that make this hard to license.

 

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite high capacity 11Ghz XPIC backhaul

 

I'd suspect that for same number of streams, same channel size, and same 
modulation, nearly every licensed backhaul will be about the same (except for 
Ubiquiti and Mimosa).



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From: "Sean Heskett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite high capacity 11Ghz XPIC backhaul

So aviat and integraX = same speed (~1.4gbps) in 80mhz channel pair?

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:05 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

It's like 10x faster in microsoft edge than in chrome, same with aviat store. 

You get 1.4 GB on 80 mhz. Comparable to the integra x. The latency is a 
magnitude higher, about half a millisecond, almost negligible.

The interface is much more intuitive and user friendly than SAF, that's not a 
SAF bash at all, we would still be running SAF and bought a ton of SAF last 
year if Ken hadn't sold us all those radios of the truck so cheap. 

 

No VAR channel is really something you need to be prepared for if you're 
accustomed to it. It's not that they dont have decent sales, but it is a self 
service design. You need to ask a lot of questions and the store is getting 
better. It still has way too much stuff with no description. If the third party 
stuff had mfg part numbers it would be better to be able to go reference.

Doing the license stuff through commsearch directly is a learning experience in 
itself, that was something the VAR handled for us before. But it's worth 
learning anyway. I really didnt understand what I thought I did, I thought we 
were licensing links. Nope, transmitters. It made it way easier to comprehend 
when we had to sign off on bucking (I think that's what they called it) we 
caused ourselves having so many links in proximity.

 

I still think SAF is a taller product by a pinch, aviat was close enough that 
it came to cost and really nothing else. 

It's also layer1 aggregation which is hawt, our integras and lumina were not, 
that's a pita, but I believe integrax is 

 

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:37 PM Josh Baird <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

The UI is very easy and functional. The networking config is dead simple.   A 
bit slow, but it's being fixed in a new firmware.  

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 7:01 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

what is the user interface for aviat like?  i assume useable and easy since a 
lot of you like them.  we are used to SAF which has been rock solid.

 

what speeds are the radios pushing in an 80Mhz channel pair?




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On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:54 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

most of our aviat is xpic, no real issues to note. price is sketchy cheap, i 
sometimes think that we arent actually buying from aviat and that ken rupple 
just keeps stealing stuff off their trucks and selling it to us. I dont care, 
best set of speakers i ever had came of the back of a truck. We have 8 links we 
bought last year. we are running out of sites to put them at.

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 5:23 PM Tim Hardy <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Whatever you end up with, make sure to pay attention to system gain. It is 
absolutely critical for modulations above 512 QAM..

Sent from my iPad

 

On Mar 3, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:



Aviat

 

Our link is solid

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:02 PM TJ Trout <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Ahh they can do two channel xpic with bridgewater?

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 2:00 PM TJ Trout <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> wrote:

I thought Aviat was the bits/hertz king?

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:53 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I'd agree with that. If one 80mhz XPIC is all that's available, it's hard to 
beat Aviat. 

 

But if you have two adjacent channels available, you can close to double the 
capacity with the Bridgewaves. If I remember correctly, SIAE can do the same 
thing, but it'll cost quite a bit more.

 

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:56 PM Jason McKemie <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I'll follow that up by saying that if you only have one 80MHz xpic channel 
available then I'd go with Aviat. I've got my first link from them going up 
soon.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, Jason McKemie <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

If you've got the spectrum available I don't think anything can come close to 
Bridgewave's Navigator, at least not without buying multiple radios.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, Sean Heskett <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hello,

 

What is the latest and greatest highest capacity 11Ghz radio everyone is in 
love with?

 

asking for a friend ;-) 




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