I will say the religious homeschool co-ops (of any faith) tend to have
very well behaved children. I think the core of it is they set a
consequence and then stick to it. It's not about corporal punishment or
physical intervention so much, but I think knowing that option is on the
table does help. When that's not an option then the only thing that
keeps a kid in line is their own tolerance for not being liked. If they
don't care what anybody thinks then they can do whatever they want.
I'm not a subject matter expert....just a guy BS'ing on the Internet.
So that theory is worth everything you paid for it.
On 4/7/2021 2:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I got thumped and choked by a few teachers, I was right at the end of
the road for teachers being allowed to handle business properly. Now
they allow kids like i was to disrupt everybody else. I was messing
with this one kid at lunch one time because he had the same last name
as me. After he had had enough, he popped me in the nose, probably
broke it, but it resolved the situation and he was able to finish his
grilled cheese in peace. Teachers saw it, even walked by while I
mopped my nose. It was simple, I was being a bully, he was done being
a bully, he addressed it using terms that were clear and we both
understood. The teachers saw that it had been satisfied and left it
alone. Today I probably would have been taken to an ER and the school
would have paid the bill, that poor kid that was just enjoying chili
and grilled cheese day would be expelled, probably arrested.
We didnt have gloves, we had an open lot across from two of the
schools, I assume after school theater was a pastime for teachers.
They had to be watching us resolve disputes because everytime
something would go to far they'd swoop in and drag people off,
otherwise problems simply got solved in those lots.
Public schools are too dangerous now and too political. I'm really
hoping I can find what I'm looking for
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 12:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
When I was in school in the 60s and 70s, we had boxing gloves. If
you got into a fight an old navy boxing teacher would give you
both gloves you would would duke it out. I thought it was great
fun. But I generally came out on top. Literally. I would borrow
the gloves and fight during recess for fun at times.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 11:44 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options
Why I'm there is another tangent and another category.
When I was in school in the 80's, if Kid A was wailing on Kid B
then an adult would step in and probably put Kid A in a headlock
until he's under control. Today, they aren't allowed to
physically touch the kids, and they're somewhat restricted in what
they're even allowed to say to them. So today Kid A gets asked
nicely to please stop doing that to Kid B.
That's all fine and good unless you're Kid B. My son was Kid B.
Kid A's mom was president of the PTA and refused to believe her
special offspring could have done anything wrong. School did both
jack and shit. So my wife said to hell with NY schools.
On 4/7/2021 1:36 PM, James Howard wrote:
So you tolerate the vegan’s diet as long as they tolerate your
nudism?
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 12:30 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options
They do trend weird. In fact, I'd say homeschoolers range from a
little weird to effin cray-cray.
There are some whose kids have weird health conditions the school
can't accommodate. Like an extreme allergy or an unusual
disability. These are usually fairly sane.
The religious homeschoolers are often trying to protect their
children from the perils of the sinful world around them, and
those are some of the less crazy ones. However, some of the
religious ones are flat-earthers and young earth creationists who
don't want their children brainwashed with secular sciences
and/or have a persecution complex. The school teaches facts like
evolution and the earth being round, so therefore it's persecution.
There are also people with weird lifestyles that the school
system won't accommodate. These could be vegans, nudists, or
almost any other kind of weirdo you can imagine. I'm not
judging, I'm just sayin that they are, by definition, weird.
They're generally relatively safe and normal. I don't worry
about them doing or saying anything too insane, and I get along
just fine with the vegans in particular. You just have to make
sure to make something they can eat when they come over.
There are some who have, shall we say, "less mainstream" notions
about how school should work. "Radical un-schooling" for
example. If you read about unschooling I think it's a method
that really could work well for the right type of curious and
self-motivated kid & parent. It also may result in a kid who's 12
and can't friggin read because his "un-schooling" curriculum is
video games and TV.....I exaggerate, but only a little.
And finally, just to put the fear of God into you, there was one
home school family in the co-op who I suspect are child abusers.
You see, school is full of mandated reporters, but if you're at
home then there's nobody to see the evidence (and I won't
elaborate on this).
So if you join a co-op or otherwise link up with other homeschool
families just be sure to practice your poker face, because you'll
hear some weird shit.
-Adam
On 4/7/2021 1:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Home schooled kids trend weird.
Are they home schooled because they're (and their parents)
are weird?
-or-
Are they weird because they were home schooled?
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*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:29:16 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: online k12 homeschool options
I have an incoming Junior and an incoming 8th grader Id
prefer not to send back to Illinois brick and mortar for at
least the upcoming year with all the covid games and
politicking going on. The schools we deal with have obvious
union pressure to have ensured the remote curriculum failed,
dont want to play that game again the coming year.
Have any of you personally dealt with or had customers relay
any good solutions? Im looking for instructor led homeschool
as educating without beatings isnt something im really
capable of.
there is a BYU curriculum I looked at but that gets some
hefty pricing and i couldn't ascertain whether its acceptable
in Illinois
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