What's the capacitor on my air conditioner condenser do? I thought that was
its purpose. I don't know much about other than a 17 dollar part every two
years keeps the wife from smelling like a pig

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Most, if not all, VFDs have a speed ramp up that is programmable.  So you
> can set the starting amp limit to whatever you want within certain bounds.
>
> *From:* Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Friday, June 4, 2021 4:52 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fort Bliss lift station troubleshooting
>
> No, AC motors don’t work that way.   Though you have the right idea, it’s
> just called a variable frequency drive.    Rectify the AC into DC, stick it
> in a big capacitor, and turn it back into AC at whatever frequency you want
> the motor to spin at.   Slowly ramp up the speed and it takes a lot less
> energy, at least in a pumping application.   Or really any application
> where starting the load moving doesn’t require a lot of breakaway
> torque.
>
> Mark
>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I assume you cant just put a massive capacitor on it?
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:14 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Exactly...that's what they messed with it.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Systems I worked on like this had an alternator circuit that would make
>>> two main pumps take turns each operation.
>>>
>>> I also worked on remote C.O. buildings that had dual HVAC systems.
>>> After a power failure the generator would come on but it could not start
>>> both systems at the same time.  I had to put a cut out on one of the HVAC
>>> systems to kill it if there was a commercial power outage.
>>>
>>> Unless you work with large motors, you have no appreciation for starting
>>> loads.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 5:02 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fort Bliss lift station troubleshooting
>>>
>>> After going through the drawings and consulting with original design
>>> engineer on this project installed in 2007, we found one issue right
>>> away...the water company techs made some changes to try to get pump 3 and 4
>>> to run simultaneously...kept tripping breaker.
>>> The system was designed for 600amps maximum but when pump 3 starts up it
>>> goes above 600, drops and stays at around 204.x while working, then when
>>> they turn pump 4, it starts up above 600amps and trips breaker.
>>> The system was designed to work with pump 1, a smaller motor and pump 3
>>> , and pump 2, same as 1, works with pump 4.
>>> On Monday, we will rewire to original design and make some changes to
>>> PLC programming and relays....they need some better level transmitter
>>> installed but that's another project.
>>> BTW, the enclosure is water tight and under a canopy for added
>>> protection.
>>>
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