It shifts the phase between the start and run winding to create a rotating 
magnetic field to get the rotor to spin.  It takes a cap and a relay.  Actually 
there are probably two caps in the same housing.  A start cap and a run cap.  
Unneeded in three phase motors.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 10:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fort Bliss lift station troubleshooting

What's the capacitor on my air conditioner condenser do? I thought that was its 
purpose. I don't know much about other than a 17 dollar part every two years 
keeps the wife from smelling like a pig

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 10:42 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

  Most, if not all, VFDs have a speed ramp up that is programmable.  So you can 
set the starting amp limit to whatever you want within certain bounds.  

  From: Mark Radabaugh 
  Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 4:52 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fort Bliss lift station troubleshooting

  No, AC motors don’t work that way.   Though you have the right idea, it’s 
just called a variable frequency drive.    Rectify the AC into DC, stick it in 
a big capacitor, and turn it back into AC at whatever frequency you want the 
motor to spin at.   Slowly ramp up the speed and it takes a lot less energy, at 
least in a pumping application.   Or really any application where starting the 
load moving doesn’t require a lot of breakaway torque.     

  Mark



    On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

    I assume you cant just put a massive capacitor on it?

    On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:14 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Exactly...that's what they messed with it.

      On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

        Systems I worked on like this had an alternator circuit that would make 
two main pumps take turns each operation.  

        I also worked on remote C.O. buildings that had dual HVAC systems.  
After a power failure the generator would come on but it could not start both 
systems at the same time.  I had to put a cut out on one of the HVAC systems to 
kill it if there was a commercial power outage.

        Unless you work with large motors, you have no appreciation for 
starting loads.  

        From: Jaime Solorza 
        Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 5:02 PM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
        Subject: [AFMUG] Fort Bliss lift station troubleshooting

        After going through the drawings and consulting with original design 
engineer on this project installed in 2007, we found one issue right away...the 
water company techs made some changes to try to get pump 3 and 4 to run 
simultaneously...kept tripping breaker.  
        The system was designed for 600amps maximum but when pump 3 starts up 
it goes above 600, drops and stays at around 204.x while working, then when 
they turn pump 4, it starts up above 600amps and trips breaker.
        The system was designed to work with pump 1, a smaller motor and pump 3 
, and pump 2, same as 1, works with pump 4.
        On Monday, we will rewire to original design and make some changes to 
PLC programming and relays....they need some better level transmitter installed 
but that's another project.
        BTW, the enclosure is water tight and under a canopy for added 
protection.



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