I think this is beyond our present capability.  We have an edgerouter X where the network meets the internet and that's it. There is only one OSPF, it's just one path with no other routes. We have a switch at every tower that powers the APs and clients(CPE) that connect to APs.  We use UISP to monitor the network remotely.  Each CPE radio is a router but all are in "bridge" mode and we have different brands of routers inside the customer homes, non-ubnt devices are using dhcp.  We use one VLAN for management.  All customers are set to 20MBps for traffic control.

I couldn't find the guilty radio if there was one and the traffic being shown at the final uplink to the outside world would only pass about 0.1kbps using the built-in speedtest between it and the next closest link but the traffic monitor was showing peaks of about 6Mbps for total traffic.  I found nothing that could prove the traffic was real.

  There doesn't seem to be enough functions available in the CPEs to actively prevent this problem from happening again.  I'm not sure what you mean by "multicast"?  It makes sense to figure out a way to squelch it.

On 6/18/21 7:15 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

This is plausible.  I think ubnt sends broadcast traffic at MCS0.  Not sure how it handles multicast.  If everyone was in the same layer2 domain a heavy broadcast traffic could affect the whole system.  Maybe the customer moving 6-10mbps was malfunctioning and broadcasting something.

In general it's safe to block all multicast and only allow it where you need to make OSPF connections.  Broadcast can be limited to 10kbps per customer with no issue.  The only broadcast they need to function is an ARP for their default gateway and a DHCP discover.  After initial discovery the DHCP traffic switches to unicast.  Not sure what tools ubnt gives you for filtering that, but ideally you'd block multicast and limit broadcast at every CPE.


On 6/18/2021 9:33 AM, Daniel White wrote:
Sounds like a broadcast storm to me.  What is the topology of your network? Routers at each tower, VLANs, etc.?

Are you filtering multicast and broadcast traffic at the CPE/customer premises?

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Jan-GAMs <mailto:[email protected]>
June 17, 2021 at 23:47
We had a strange outage on one of our networks yesterday.  At first we thought it was one customer.  The symptom was very low to non-existent internet traffic.  The complaint was my internet is not working!

Upon testing I found that the complaining customer had for a speed test about 0.14kbps for a speed to it's AP.  So I went to their AP and tested the speed back at them, it was about the same unusually slow speed.  Then I tested that AP to another AP and that speed was about the same slow speed.  So then I tested another customer and another and then ended up testing just about everyone in the whole network.  Everyone was operating at an unusually slow speedtest to any other device of about 0.1kbps to 0kbps. The whole network was down and yet the UISP was indicating everyone was up and operating with even some traffic in the 6-10 Mbps range which I'm sure was fake traffic as none of the devices tested would pass anything above a few kbps.

A reboot of every device resolved the issue.

Our gear is Ubiquiti and I'm wondering has anyone else using Ubiquiti been experiencing anything like what I just described? Is there a known cause?





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