They've had functional fusion reactors for years, but they produced less power than they consumed.  Apparently they're close enough to turning the corner that they're ready to talk about building a real plant.

I'm sure people will be afraid of that too.


On 7/12/2021 12:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Im all about these new generation reactors that use the spent fuel from prior generation reactors. people get too scared of nuclear waste because of movies and CNN. Apparently theres a massive fusion reactor that is being built, I thought that was still all theoretical. Almost everyone around our landfill has developed some form of cancer or another. But we also have a ton of undocumented abandoned coal mines under us that were used as garbage dumps. I dont know how a statistician could identify whether its the landfill, the coalmine, the garbage in the coal mines, or the chemtrails that caused it.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:48 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The USA used to burn about a billion tons of coal per year.  Now
    down to about a half billion tons.

    About 10-12% of that tonnage is left behind as ash and slag which
    then go into a landfill.  That waste is slightly radioactive and
    contains a variety of metals which were incidentally mined along
    with the coal (mercury, cadmium, arsenic, among others).  The clay
    lining of the landfill doesn't last forever....they all end up
    leaking some.

    That doesn't count the waste produced from mining, crushing, and
    washing the coal.  All of which produce toxic waste which also
    goes into a landfill.

    People fuss and wring their hands that we don't have a /perfect
    /way to handle nuclear waste, but nobody seems overly bothered
    that we don't have a perfect way to handle the coal waste that
    we've already been making for 200 years.

    You're not particularly likely to be harmed by either properly
    handled coal or fission waste, the coal waste is the more likely
    one to impact you:

    
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/
    
<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/>

    And air pollution from fission is almost non-existent. We keep
    waiting for the perfect energy solution instead of adopting the
    dramatically better one that we already have available.  We're
    pretty irrational about this whole topic IMO.


    On 7/9/2021 4:22 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    Pretty sure coal mining accidents plus black lung add up to more
    than anything else on the chart.
    Coal fly ash is more radioactive than any other radioactive thing
    released as far as curies released.
    Not sure how you calculate air pollution.  Also not sure how you
    quantify ultimate deaths from Chernobyl.  Those numbers range
    from the 31 people that actually died at the time to 50 ultimate
    deaths.  But other calculate it as high as 900,000 Most of the
    firefighters and other responders are either still living or
    lived a natural lifespan.
    Still nuclear doesn’t touch coal.
    
https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/could-small-amounts-of-radiation-be-good-for-you-its-complicated
    
<https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/could-small-amounts-of-radiation-be-good-for-you-its-complicated>
    My favorite story is the apartment building in Taiwan that was
    constructed using radioactive rebar.
    People bathed by high radiation for years had only 3% of the
    expected cancer.
    
https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2020/12/the-curious-case-of-radioactive-apartments/
    
<https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2020/12/the-curious-case-of-radioactive-apartments/>
    *From:* [email protected]
    *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 2:02 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** OT interesting graphic
    I'd rather see the deaths by accident alone. "Air pollution"
    seems like it could be a fuzzy number.
    On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 1:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        nuclear-10adesktop-2
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