My understanding is that one model that seems to work is where the
municipality builds a strand of fiber from an appropriate number of
centralized locations to every home in a community or neighborhood and
doesn't light the fiber.   They also build enough backbone fiber to each of
these locations to support lots of providers.

Providers then can instantly gain access to the customers by adding
appropriate gear at each of the locations and paying the muni a pittance to
ride the fiber and to maintain it.

Obviously this doesn't work where the muni charges too much.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 9:01 AM Tyson Burris <[email protected]> wrote:

> When I asked Claude if there has been or is ANY other country in the world
> who is running fiber or tossing money to  get every home ‘broadband’ I was
> told Australia attempted it but ended up backing away from the idea.
>
>
>
> We simply are wasting money left and right with failed political decisions
> and not one voting politician seems to really care.  They don’t even know
> what broadband mapping is yet.
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> I'm still waiting for my DSL service.... so at least at my CAS covered
> address it was a flop.
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> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 8:00 AM Tyson Burris <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Isn't CenturyLink's CAF Phase 1 a total flop in most states?
> It was a half ass quick build and they had their hands slap by the FCC?
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> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 7:15 PM
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> Subject: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures
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> Does anyone know a compiled list of community broadband projects that have
> received federal funds then failed or got sold off?
>
> One of the counties in our service area is in the process of 'thinking
> about building a fiber network that we(they) will run ourselves'  We're
> looking for examples we can give them where the government built then
> network, but was then unable to continue to run it, or it didn't play out
> the way they expected.
>
> Here in Illinois, another county just recently transferred their BTOP
> funded Fiber network to a private entity because they were convinced they
> didn't want to run it anymore (there's more to the story, but that's the
> long and short from what I gather)  There's gotta be stories like this all
> over, has there been a list compiled somewhere?
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