This inept administration is constantly raising the bar on ineptitude. It's
like watching a wife who has the husbands credit card after a few too many
martinis

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 12:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Many of the telcos have elected the ACAM program.  They get a big pile of
> money for 10 years.  They have to build out fiber.  The presumption is that
> the welfare checks stop at the end of the 10 year period.  Then they have
> to operate on a straight up business model like everyone else.
>
> We will see...
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:48 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures
>
>
> The USA did it with telephones and USF and Rural Utilities.  It worked.
> There's almost nowhere with no phone service.
>
> We could do it again with fiber, but this would become a very different
> business.  Officially sanctioned monopolies with pricing and service level
> set by bureaucrats.  I would probably not enjoy that new world order, but
> I'm saying if we (as a society) decided that was an important goal there is
> already a blazed trail we could follow.
>
>
> On 7/13/2021 11:00 AM, Tyson Burris wrote:
>
> When I asked Claude if there has been or is ANY other country in the world
> who is running fiber or tossing money to  get every home ‘broadband’ I was
> told Australia attempted it but ended up backing away from the idea.
>
>
>
> We simply are wasting money left and right with failed political decisions
> and not one voting politician seems to really care.  They don’t even know
> what broadband mapping is yet.
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
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> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
> Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2021 10:45 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures
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>
> I'm still waiting for my DSL service.... so at least at my CAS covered
> address it was a flop.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 8:00 AM Tyson Burris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Isn't CenturyLink's CAF Phase 1 a total flop in most states?
> It was a half ass quick build and they had their hands slap by the FCC?
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 7:15 PM
> To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures
>
> Does anyone know a compiled list of community broadband projects that have
> received federal funds then failed or got sold off?
>
> One of the counties in our service area is in the process of 'thinking
> about building a fiber network that we(they) will run ourselves'  We're
> looking for examples we can give them where the government built then
> network, but was then unable to continue to run it, or it didn't play out
> the way they expected.
>
> Here in Illinois, another county just recently transferred their BTOP
> funded Fiber network to a private entity because they were convinced they
> didn't want to run it anymore (there's more to the story, but that's the
> long and short from what I gather)  There's gotta be stories like this all
> over, has there been a list compiled somewhere?
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