Many of the telcos have elected the ACAM program.  They get a big pile of money 
for 10 years.  They have to build out fiber.  The presumption is that the 
welfare checks stop at the end of the 10 year period.  Then they have to 
operate on a straight up business model like everyone else.  

We will see...


From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:48 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

The USA did it with telephones and USF and Rural Utilities.  It worked.  
There's almost nowhere with no phone service.  


We could do it again with fiber, but this would become a very different 
business.  Officially sanctioned monopolies with pricing and service level set 
by bureaucrats.  I would probably not enjoy that new world order, but I'm 
saying if we (as a society) decided that was an important goal there is already 
a blazed trail we could follow.




On 7/13/2021 11:00 AM, Tyson Burris wrote:

  When I asked Claude if there has been or is ANY other country in the world 
who is running fiber or tossing money to  get every home ‘broadband’ I was told 
Australia attempted it but ended up backing away from the idea.

   

  We simply are wasting money left and right with failed political decisions 
and not one voting politician seems to really care.  They don’t even know what 
broadband mapping is yet.

   

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  From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
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  I'm still waiting for my DSL service.... so at least at my CAS covered 
address it was a flop.

   

  On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 8:00 AM Tyson Burris <[email protected]> wrote:

    Isn't CenturyLink's CAF Phase 1 a total flop in most states?  
    It was a half ass quick build and they had their hands slap by the FCC?

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    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
    Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 7:15 PM
    To: Animal Farm <[email protected]>
    Subject: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

    Does anyone know a compiled list of community broadband projects that have 
received federal funds then failed or got sold off?

    One of the counties in our service area is in the process of 'thinking 
about building a fiber network that we(they) will run ourselves'  We're looking 
for examples we can give them where the government built then network, but was 
then unable to continue to run it, or it didn't play out the way they expected.

    Here in Illinois, another county just recently transferred their BTOP 
funded Fiber network to a private entity because they were convinced they 
didn't want to run it anymore (there's more to the story, but that's the long 
and short from what I gather)  There's gotta be stories like this all over, has 
there been a list compiled somewhere?

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