So to reverse the de-evolution and get back on track we have to become warrior nomads?
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 3:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Thin skins I don't have kids, but isn't the whole 'parent' mantra that is should be easier for your kids than it was for you? When my parents got married, they had $500 between them, and their car got 2 flat tires on their honeymoon. I never had to experience that. I will be the first to agree that kids today are wacked out, They don't have nearly the grit that i do, and don't think about why they think things other than it's a popular opinion to have, but I'm curious if that's what your great great grandparents would think of you. 'You have water INSIDE the house, and more than 1 person can go to the bathroom at once? And what's this fancy cold box in your kitchen.' And their grand-parents 'your house is in permanently in one spot, and you don't have to sharpen your spear before you hunt?' On 10/21/2021 1:23 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Piss me off and I’m gonna come and install a radiator in your room... We are seeing de-evolution. Skins are thinning, grit is disappearing. Soon we will have a generation that is killed by exposure to sunlight. Glad to have been born at the peak of human development! Go Boomers!!! From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP i read the losers' editorial in their college rag. I so wanted to choke this entitled little tool. Their lack of understanding how the world actually functions really concerns me for the future of the planet. COVID was supposed to resolve much of that issue, I can only hope for airborn Ebola On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hell, we had kids with rifles and handguns in their lockers during deer season. Teachers too. Very few kids turned out to be snowflakes. A few fistfights now and then gives you grit. And the funny thing to me is, the guys of my father’s generator that fought WW2 (and my great uncle WW1) were tougher than the hubs of hell compared to my generation. I think we are seeing devolution. I read a junk news piece a couple of days ago that a college student was triggered because a cis gendered man came to the dorms to replace a radiator. They thought that was some kind of a crime I guess. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP Yeah, we didn’t know how good we had it when all we had to do was go sit in the school hallway and practice kissing our ass goodby. Now the kids get to worry about which loser is going to shoot the school up. Of course in the 70’s 3/4 of the pickup trucks in the parking lot (which was 3/4 of the vehicles) had hunting rifles and shotguns hanging in them. You really didn’t want to give everyone an excuse to start shooting at you. Mark On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: The good old days. They eject one of our ambassadors and we eject one of theirs. Firey speeches, defections. Only one real enemy. Life was good and we didn’t even know it. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:07 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: 'Chuck McCown' Subject: RE: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP He is Mikhail Hammetovich. Soviet sleeper agent. Embedded for cold war. Still ready to activate if Mother Russia calls. …..or Google is a dumb machine with just enough logic built in to trick us into thinking it’s smart sometimes. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP Is your name really Mike? Do you know Mandarin? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP Interesting. 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On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:41 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: It's not just the access layer, but the whole ecosystem. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <~WRD0001.jpg> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <~WRD0001.jpg> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> <~WRD0001.jpg> _____ From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:19:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP Is there any such thing as a GPON system that isn't vendor locked? I'm not specifically defending Calix here, I'm just thinking I haven't yet seen GPON equipment that made any assertions about interop with other vendors. Unless you went ActiveE aren't you still locked in with whatever vendor you went with? On 10/16/2021 12:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: "no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that isn't Calix" and welcome to Calix. That's one of the reasons I opted to not go with Calix for our fiber system. Just as vendor-locked as Apple and Ubiquiti. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <~WRD0001.jpg> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <~WRD0001.jpg> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> <~WRD0001.jpg> _____ From: "Daniel White" mailto:[email protected] To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 7:52:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP So with most VoIP devices... you can point them to an auto-provision server. When they boot up, they send a request (FTP, HTTP, HTTPS) for the config file based on MAC address, the provisioning server creates the file or serves up a file already created. There is no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that isn't Calix. That is where the ONT expects to find the SIP credentials. There is no way to have the Calix Cloud pull credentials based on MAC address from a SIP provisioning server. So the only option you have is to manually add the credentials by first creating them on the VoIP platform and then entering them into the Calix Cloud. There could be a way to do this via API... and really there isn't any reason I can think of why there is not. But Calix has a hell of a play to pay mentality and partnering with them in any way as a vendor is a lot of paperwork and bureaucracy. <image002.jpg> Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 D. Bernardi October 15, 2021 at 11:49 At 01:19 PM 10/15/2021, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D1116C3466A99CAA51BD3FBE" Content-Language: en-US Carl, We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs (Gigacenter and Gigaspire). There is no auto-provision option which is a shame. Is TR-069 not an option to provision outside of OMCI? Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 Carl Peterson October 13, 2021 at 09:21 our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks. Any chance you could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP service? I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it.  -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 Chuck McCown via AF October 13, 2021 at 07:59 If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes. Sent from my iPhone Carl Peterson October 13, 2021 at 06:27 I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone service. In the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive. Is it possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS port on the ONTs? GPON4 card says it supports VOIP.  E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com Daniel White October 15, 2021 at 10:19 Carl, We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs (Gigacenter and Gigaspire). There is no auto-provision option which is a shame. Carl Peterson October 13, 2021 at 09:21 our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks. Any chance you could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP service? I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it. -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 Chuck McCown via AF October 13, 2021 at 07:59 If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes. Sent from my iPhone Carl Peterson October 13, 2021 at 06:27 I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone service. In the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive. Is it possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS port on the ONTs? GPON4 card says it supports VOIP. 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