If you listen to the podcast, you will learn that the Olympic folks used to do 
exactly that, but there was no correlation with performance if a woman was XXY, 
XXXY etc or any of the other variations.  

There is however a correlation between performance and testosterone for 
females.  Female types have a variety of ways to make testosterone.    I think 
they decided anything over 30 nanomols per liter had to compete as a man or not 
at all.  

But then they discovered that testosterone in females only gives a performance 
boost to certain sports, like middle distance running, but not for sprinting.  
For the sports it helps, the boost is 2-4% which can make all the difference in 
the world.  

They tweaked the rules in April.  Can’t remember the current methods.  I think 
some athletes are restricted to certain sports and not allowed to compete in 
other sports against women if their level is so high.  But some male athletes 
have very low testosterone that dip below those levels...

It is truly a sticky wicket.  The podcast is about an Indian (dot head, not 
feather heat) woman that was about to qualify for the Olympics.  They 
genetically tested her because of her times and she learned that she is XXY I 
think.  She fought it in the sports courts and forced them to apply a bit more 
science to the situation.  

I promise, it is well worth listening to.  I listened to it twice.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

chromosomal status, eliminate men and women from the equation. problem solved

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:56 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

  For whatever reason, this reminds me of a podcast I listened to this morning. 
 Has to do with how the Olympics are trying to deal with women that might not 
be full on women.  Been dealing with it for decades. (Remember the USSR women 
weight lifters in the 1960s)? 
  They still don’t totally have it down but are getting closer.  Fascinating:
  https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/dutee

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:06 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

  i read the losers' editorial in their college rag. I so wanted to choke this 
entitled little tool. Their lack of understanding how the world actually 
functions really concerns me for the future of the planet. 
  COVID was supposed to resolve much of that issue, I can only hope for airborn 
Ebola

  On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hell, we had kids with rifles and handguns in their lockers during deer 
season.  Teachers too.  
    Very few kids turned out to be snowflakes.  A few fistfights now and then 
gives you grit.  

    And the funny thing to me is, the guys of my father’s generator that fought 
WW2 (and my great uncle WW1) were tougher than the hubs of hell compared to my 
generation.  

    I think we are seeing devolution.  I read a junk news piece a couple of 
days ago that a college student was triggered because a cis gendered man came 
to the dorms to replace a radiator.  They thought that was some kind of a crime 
I guess.  

    From: Mark Radabaugh 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:58 AM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

    Yeah, we didn’t know how good we had it when all we had to do was go sit in 
the school hallway and practice kissing our ass goodby.    Now the kids get to 
worry about which loser is going to shoot the school up. 

    Of course in the 70’s 3/4 of the pickup trucks in the parking lot (which 
was 3/4 of the vehicles) had hunting rifles and shotguns hanging in them.   You 
really didn’t want to give everyone an excuse to start shooting at you.


    Mark



      On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

      The good old days.  They eject one of our ambassadors and we eject one of 
theirs.  Firey speeches, defections.  Only one real enemy.  Life was good and 
we didn’t even know it.  

      From: [email protected] 
      Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:07 AM
      To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
      Cc: 'Chuck McCown' 
      Subject: RE: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

      He is Mikhail Hammetovich.  Soviet sleeper agent.

      Embedded for cold war.  Still ready to activate if Mother Russia calls.



      …..or Google is a dumb machine with just enough logic built in to trick 
us into thinking it’s smart sometimes.



      From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
      Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:04 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
      Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP



      Is your name really Mike?  Do you know Mandarin?



      From: Mike Hammett 

      Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:52 AM

      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP



      Interesting. I sent to my own GMail account and it worked as one would 
expect.



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      From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected]>
      To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
      Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:43:31 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

      Mike, 



      Google is giving me a warning about your account. 



      The sender’s account may have been compromised. Avoid clicking links, 
downloading attachments, or replying with personal information. If you know the 
sender, consider alerting them (but avoid replying to this email).





      On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:41 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

        It's not just the access layer, but the whole ecosystem.



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        From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:19:11 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

        Is there any such thing as a GPON system that isn't vendor locked?

        I'm not specifically defending Calix here, I'm just thinking I haven't 
yet seen GPON equipment that made any assertions about interop with other 
vendors.  Unless you went ActiveE aren't you still locked in with whatever 
vendor you went with?





        On 10/16/2021 12:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

          "no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that 
isn't Calix" 



          and welcome to Calix. That's one of the reasons I opted to not go 
with Calix for our fiber system. Just as vendor-locked as Apple and Ubiquiti.



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          From: "Daniel White" mailto:[email protected]
          To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
          Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 7:52:15 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP

          So with most VoIP devices... you can point them to an auto-provision 
server.  When they boot up, they send a request (FTP, HTTP, HTTPS) for the 
config file based on MAC address, the provisioning server creates the file or 
serves up a file already created.  

          There is no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up 
that isn't Calix.  That is where the ONT expects to find the SIP credentials.  
There is no way to have the Calix Cloud pull credentials based on MAC address 
from a SIP provisioning server.  So the only option you have is to manually add 
the credentials by first creating them on the VoIP platform and then entering 
them into the Calix Cloud.

          There could be a way to do this via API... and really there isn't any 
reason I can think of why there is not.  But Calix has a hell of a play to pay 
mentality and partnering with them in any way as a vendor is a lot of paperwork 
and bureaucracy. 



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                      direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
                     
               
               

            D. Bernardi

            October 15, 2021 at 11:49

            At 01:19 PM 10/15/2021, you wrote: 

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              Content-Language: en-US 

              Carl, 

              We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs 
(Gigacenter and Gigaspire).  There is no auto-provision option which is a 
shame. 



            Is TR-069 not an option to provision outside of OMCI? 



              Daniel White 
              Co-Founder 
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              direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 

                Carl Peterson 
                October 13, 2021 at 09:21 
                our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks.  Any 
chance you could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring 
VOIP service?  I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it.  



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                Chuck McCown via AF 
                October 13, 2021 at 07:59 
                If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes. 

                Sent from my iPhone 



                Carl Peterson 
                October 13, 2021 at 06:27 
                I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone 
service.  In the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive. 
 Is it possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS 
port on the ONTs?  GPON4 card says it supports VOIP.  

                E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport 

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            Daniel White

            October 15, 2021 at 10:19

            Carl,

            We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs 
(Gigacenter and Gigaspire).  There is no auto-provision option which is a shame.

            Carl Peterson

            October 13, 2021 at 09:21

            our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks.  Any chance 
you could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP 
service?  I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it.  







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            PORT NETWORKS

            401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

            Baltimore, MD 21202

            (410) 637-3707 





            Chuck McCown via AF

            October 13, 2021 at 07:59

            If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes.

            Sent from my iPhone







            Carl Peterson

            October 13, 2021 at 06:27

            I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone 
service.  In the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive.  
Is it possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS port 
on the ONTs?  GPON4 card says it supports VOIP.   



            E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport 



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            PORT NETWORKS

            401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

            Baltimore, MD 21202

            (410) 637-3707 








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