Ah, this was Oberlin College.   We all know that college is Nucking Futs.  It’s 
exactly what you would expect from a liberal arts school that costs $77k/year 
to send your kid to for a degree in art appreciation.

Mark



> On Oct 21, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> i read the losers' editorial in their college rag. I so wanted to choke this 
> entitled little tool. Their lack of understanding how the world actually 
> functions really concerns me for the future of the planet.
> COVID was supposed to resolve much of that issue, I can only hope for airborn 
> Ebola
> 
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hell, we had kids with rifles and handguns in their lockers during deer 
> season.  Teachers too. 
> Very few kids turned out to be snowflakes.  A few fistfights now and then 
> gives you grit. 
>  
> And the funny thing to me is, the guys of my father’s generator that fought 
> WW2 (and my great uncle WW1) were tougher than the hubs of hell compared to 
> my generation. 
>  
> I think we are seeing devolution.  I read a junk news piece a couple of days 
> ago that a college student was triggered because a cis gendered man came to 
> the dorms to replace a radiator.  They thought that was some kind of a crime 
> I guess. 
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:58 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>  
> Yeah, we didn’t know how good we had it when all we had to do was go sit in 
> the school hallway and practice kissing our ass goodby.    Now the kids get 
> to worry about which loser is going to shoot the school up.
>  
> Of course in the 70’s 3/4 of the pickup trucks in the parking lot (which was 
> 3/4 of the vehicles) had hunting rifles and shotguns hanging in them.   You 
> really didn’t want to give everyone an excuse to start shooting at you.
>  
> Mark
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>  
>> The good old days.  They eject one of our ambassadors and we eject one of 
>> theirs.  Firey speeches, defections.  Only one real enemy.  Life was good 
>> and we didn’t even know it. 
>>  
>> From: [email protected] <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:07 AM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
>> Cc: 'Chuck McCown' <>
>> Subject: RE: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>>  
>> He is Mikhail Hammetovich.  Soviet sleeper agent.
>> 
>> Embedded for cold war.  Still ready to activate if Mother Russia calls.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> …..or Google is a dumb machine with just enough logic built in to trick us 
>> into thinking it’s smart sometimes.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <[email protected] <>> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:04 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <>>
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected] <>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is your name really Mike?  Do you know Mandarin?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Mike Hammett
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:52 AM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Interesting. I sent to my own GMail account and it worked as one would 
>> expect.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><~WRD0001.jpg>
>>  <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>> 
>> 
>>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected] <>>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] <>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:43:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Google is giving me a warning about your account.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The sender’s account may have been compromised. Avoid clicking links, 
>> downloading attachments, or replying with personal information. If you know 
>> the sender, consider alerting them (but avoid replying to this email).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:41 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not just the access layer, but the whole ecosystem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><~WRD0001.jpg>
>>  <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><~WRD0001.jpg>
>> 
>> 
>>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] <>>
>> To: [email protected] <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:19:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>> 
>> Is there any such thing as a GPON system that isn't vendor locked?
>> 
>> I'm not specifically defending Calix here, I'm just thinking I haven't yet 
>> seen GPON equipment that made any assertions about interop with other 
>> vendors.  Unless you went ActiveE aren't you still locked in with whatever 
>> vendor you went with?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 10/16/2021 12:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> 
>> "no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that isn't 
>> Calix"
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> and welcome to Calix. That's one of the reasons I opted to not go with Calix 
>> for our fiber system. Just as vendor-locked as Apple and Ubiquiti.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><~WRD0001.jpg>
>>  <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><~WRD0001.jpg> 
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <~WRD0001.jpg> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><~WRD0001.jpg>
>> 
>> 
>>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> From: "Daniel White" mailto:[email protected] <>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected] <>
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 7:52:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] E7-2 GPON and VOIP
>> 
>> So with most VoIP devices... you can point them to an auto-provision server. 
>>  When they boot up, they send a request (FTP, HTTP, HTTPS) for the config 
>> file based on MAC address, the provisioning server creates the file or 
>> serves up a file already created.  
>> 
>> There is no way to direct an ONT to a provisioning server on boot-up that 
>> isn't Calix.  That is where the ONT expects to find the SIP credentials.  
>> There is no way to have the Calix Cloud pull credentials based on MAC 
>> address from a SIP provisioning server.  So the only option you have is to 
>> manually add the credentials by first creating them on the VoIP platform and 
>> then entering them into the Calix Cloud.
>> 
>> There could be a way to do this via API... and really there isn't any reason 
>> I can think of why there is not.  But Calix has a hell of a play to pay 
>> mentality and partnering with them in any way as a vendor is a lot of 
>> paperwork and bureaucracy.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> <image002.jpg>
>> 
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder
>> 
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>> 
>> D. Bernardi
>> 
>> October 15, 2021 at 11:49
>> 
>> At 01:19 PM 10/15/2021, you wrote:
>> 
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
>> boundary="------------D1116C3466A99CAA51BD3FBE" 
>> Content-Language: en-US 
>> 
>> Carl, 
>> 
>> We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs (Gigacenter 
>> and Gigaspire).  There is no auto-provision option which is a shame.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is TR-069 not an option to provision outside of OMCI? 
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel White 
>> Co-Founder 
>> phone:Â +1 (702) 470-2770 
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>> 
>> Carl Peterson 
>> October 13, 2021 at 09:21 
>> our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks.  Any chance you 
>> could point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP 
>> service?  I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it.  
>> 
>> 
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>> Chuck McCown via AF 
>> October 13, 2021 at 07:59 
>> If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carl Peterson 
>> October 13, 2021 at 06:27 
>> I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone service.  In 
>> the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive.  Is it 
>> possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS port on 
>> the ONTs?  GPON4 card says it supports VOIP.  
>> 
>> E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport 
>> 
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>> Daniel White
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>> October 15, 2021 at 10:19
>> 
>> Carl,
>> 
>> We have many ISPs reselling our VoIP service using Calix ONTs (Gigacenter 
>> and Gigaspire).  There is no auto-provision option which is a shame.
>> 
>> Carl Peterson
>> 
>> October 13, 2021 at 09:21
>> 
>> our Gigacenters and P series ONTs all have POTs jacks.  Any chance you could 
>> point me in the right direction as to how to start configuring VOIP service? 
>>  I have no idea how to even begin thinking about it.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>> Chuck McCown via AF
>> 
>> October 13, 2021 at 07:59
>> 
>> If you use onts that have pots jacks, yes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carl Peterson
>> 
>> October 13, 2021 at 06:27
>> 
>> I've got a few business customers who would like to add phone service.  In 
>> the past we have just set them up with a service like Goto/Jive.  Is it 
>> possible to configure something like this and then just use the POTS         
>>  port on the ONTs?  GPON4 card says it supports VOIP.  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> E7-2_GPON-4r2 Voice–NativeSIP/VoIPandTDMGatewaysupport
>> 
>>  
>> 
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