I would think every actor that has to use a gun should have to get trained to 
the point they know they are the last chance to catch something like this.  And 
are going to shoulder the blame.  Only takes a second to see what you have in 
the gun.
Dummy’s look like real rounds but the primers are dimpled and they rattle of 
you shake them .  You can spin the cylinder of a pistol and see all the primers 
in one second.
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> On Dec 1, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> thats not what the camera operators lawsuit states.
> 
> Hes doind everything to deflect from his culpability.
> 
> Doesnt help his case that other big name actors have already called him out 
> for his personal disregard for standards of safety, including the guild rules 
> that firearms are never pointed at live people.
> 
> I dont know anything about blanks, I would have no reason to use them, but 
> maybe (highly doubtful) some aspect of a blank cartridge can cause a long 
> term impact to the firing mechanism, like brazing it from more oxygenated 
> burn on the poweder for a hotter temp.
> 
> There was a cheap handgun, something just above a hipoint that had a recall 
> like 5 years ago, may have been a model of glock, that would fire 
> occasionally when dropped. This armorer lady sounds like she was more 
> concerned about selfies than verifying product recalls. Maybe her and pinrod 
> baldwin can find an intersex low secuity prison to do their time together.
> 
> Theres the whole new story coming out that her armorer father thinks some 
> other movie armorer might have left live rounds on this set that he stole 
> from him. weird coincidence. Ammo isnt all that cheap, but even on a movie 
> set with as B rate a budget as this one had, youd think it would be best to 
> always start with zero ammunition and purchase new live or dummy rounds for 
> the flick each time, destroy the spoilage. Ammo cans can get pretty chaotic 
> over time 
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The scene called for pointing the gun at the camera, and he did what the 
>> scene called for 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Dec 1, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic 
>>> gun pointing it at people on a scene that had no call to point at people in 
>>> an industry where you dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont 
>>> point at anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt pull 
>>> the trigger. Totally trust a mope who beats people up over parking spots
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I have a few heirloom antique 22 cal rifles.  Nothing against guns but I 
>>>> don’t own a handgun.  I have historically had a very short fuse and quick 
>>>> to fight.  I have mellowed with age but I still don’t want to give myself 
>>>> that option.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My dad was USMC sniper...he loved to hunt and taught my brothers and me 
>>>>> how to shoot rifles and hand guns...my youngest brother had the best 
>>>>> aim...he took us hunting...thus is back in mid 1960s to 1972...folks 
>>>>> divorced ..
>>>>> None of us own guns....we prefer fishing and crossbows...
>>>>> Only one who ever carried a gun was my sister when she worked for a three 
>>>>> letter guvment(in my best Steve Jones voice) agency and my son in combat 
>>>>> and afterwards as Air Force MP...
>>>>> Neither own guns now...
>>>>> Stay safe 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 4:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> He is saying he did not pull the trigger.  My first instinct was “yeah 
>>>>>> right”.  But I had to remind myself that I had a rifle go off all on its 
>>>>>> own once when I was about 13.  It was pointed at the ground.  Stock was 
>>>>>> under my right arm.  I was walking.  My hand was no where near the 
>>>>>> trigger. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I actually did not realize it went off.  I realized someone very nearby 
>>>>>> fired a gun, but I did not feel it kick.  It was either a lever action 
>>>>>> 30-30 or a 32 special, I used both on a regular basis. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Everyone else in the hunting party all turned looked at me and asked me 
>>>>>> what I was shooting at.  I initially denied I shot at anything but I 
>>>>>> felt the barrel and it was warm.  There was also a crater in the dirt 
>>>>>> right in front of my toe. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Maybe a button on a sleeve or a rivet on my pants caught the trigger or 
>>>>>> the hammer.  When hunting I would frequently pull the hammer back half 
>>>>>> way.  I think that was considered having the safety on with those old 
>>>>>> guns.  You could not pull the trigger and fire from that position.  If 
>>>>>> the trigger was all the way forward, it would fire if the hammer got 
>>>>>> struck by something.  To fire you had to pull the hammer all the way 
>>>>>> back.  Or if you used the lever to put one in the chamber it would also 
>>>>>> fully cock the gun.   
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> It has always been a mystery to me.  Just glad I didn’t kill anyone that 
>>>>>> day. 
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