You and me both. When I'm in the presence of people who (I feel) are a bit too cavalier with a firearm, I get very nervous, and my natural instinct is to get the hell away from that person. I was taught to treat every firearm as if it is loaded. My bolt action rifle, I keep the bolt stored separate from the rifle. I don't put it in until I am ready to use it.
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One junk news article has another person on the set saying his finger was on the trigger guard.Whether single or double action, a revolver takes some force to fire.I supposed if it was fully cocked and adjusted to have a hair trigger it is possible to be extra easy to touch off.I just cannot imagine someone handing me a firearm expecting me to wave it around in the general direction of people and me not checking it first. I would never trust someone’s word on that.From where I'm sitting there had to be multiple screw ups. First is the security of the weapons. Based on what I've read (and I don't know how much of it is true), the weapons were on a table; they had been used for "target practice" during breaks; the armorer had declared them to be "cold" (in my mind that means there is nothing in the chambers; not blanks, not anything).
If it was a dress rehearsal, I would expect that there were multiple cameras running. Digital film does not cost enough to matter, and it can be used to determine if they're getting the shots they want.
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 12/2/2021 5:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Something a lot of people are leaving out is that movie set gun safety is likely quite different than real life gun safety. Likely, the same rules don't apply in both scenarios.
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Amazing how less dead that lady would be if this guy wasnt handling a magic gun pointing it at people on a scene that had no call to point at people in an industry where you dont point firearms at people with a firearm you dont point at anything youre not prepared to destroy... but sure, he didnt pull the trigger. Totally trust a mope who beats people up over parking spotsOn Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
I have a few heirloom antique 22 cal rifles. Nothing against guns but I don’t own a handgun. I have historically had a very short fuse and quick to fight. I have mellowed with age but I still don’t want to give myself that option.--
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On Dec 1, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote:
My dad was USMC sniper...he loved to hunt and taught my brothers and me how to shoot rifles and hand guns...my youngest brother had the best aim...he took us hunting...thus is back in mid 1960s to 1972...folks divorced ..None of us own guns....we prefer fishing and crossbows...Only one who ever carried a gun was my sister when she worked for a three letter guvment(in my best Steve Jones voice) agency and my son in combat and afterwards as Air Force MP...Neither own guns now...Stay safe--On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, 4:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
--He is saying he did not pull the trigger. My first instinct was “yeah right”. But I had to remind myself that I had a rifle go off all on its own once when I was about 13. It was pointed at the ground. Stock was under my right arm. I was walking. My hand was no where near the trigger.I actually did not realize it went off. I realized someone very nearby fired a gun, but I did not feel it kick. It was either a lever action 30-30 or a 32 special, I used both on a regular basis.Everyone else in the hunting party all turned looked at me and asked me what I was shooting at. I initially denied I shot at anything but I felt the barrel and it was warm. There was also a crater in the dirt right in front of my toe.Maybe a button on a sleeve or a rivet on my pants caught the trigger or the hammer. When hunting I would frequently pull the hammer back half way. I think that was considered having the safety on with those old guns. You could not pull the trigger and fire from that position. If the trigger was all the way forward, it would fire if the hammer got struck by something. To fire you had to pull the hammer all the way back. Or if you used the lever to put one in the chamber it would also fully cock the gun.It has always been a mystery to me. Just glad I didn’t kill anyone that day.
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