On those fiberglass ones I was talking about we had them designed for two 3' dishes and 8 sector antennas. The limiting factor on fiberglass was not the break strength but how much deflection you could tolerate before your backhaul links go down.  If I recall correctly that loading was only 25% of break strength in high winds, but at 70mph wind would bend the pole too far for the backhaul to stay aligned.

.....but the real answer is ask the manufacturer about your loads and pay them for engineering if you have to.


On 1/5/2022 9:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I have no details, but in the promotional video they have it looks like 4 450Ms and 2 2or3' dishes at the top of what looks like a 100' pole.

On 1/5/2022 8:38 AM, Tim Withrow via AF wrote:
Whats the windloading on these towers?

    On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:35 AM, Nate Burke
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Would that be true even on these that bolt onto a concrete base?  I
    would think that a 80' pole would be 80' if it's bolting on a base.

    Install of $3-4k, what was the actual pole cost?

    On 1/5/2022 7:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
    > And btw:  an 80' pole is 70' AGL.  The bottom 10ft goes in the
    dirt.
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
    > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 8:27 AM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Musco Towers
    >
    > My last outfit did a whole bunch of 80' fiberglass poles like
    that. With step bolts, safety climb systems, and mounting
    hardware at the top.
    >
    > 80' was about the biggest pole you could put in with a normal
    size digger derrick truck.  You can call any utility line
    contractor for that.  We had them put in for around $2500 each.
    Bore hole, assemble pole sections, drop in hole, back fill, and
    hydraulic compaction.  I'm positive we can't get that price
    today, but I'd imagine $3000-$4000 for installation.  Obviously
    it's different if it's your own derrick truck.
    >
    > We did one that was 96' and called in a crane for that one. 
    The derrick truck could lift it, but wasn't tall enough to pick
    it above the center of gravity so couldn't tip it into the hole.
    Even so, crane service for a few hours was only an extra $500 or so.
    >
    > -Adam
    >
    >
    > On 12/23/2021 12:14 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
    >> https://www.musco.com/wireless-structures/
    >>
    >> Anybody used these or know about pricing?  We seem to have a
    growing
    >> need for 60-100' towers, but the concrete cost is always the
    killer.
    >> Seems like this would need a smaller concrete base, and
    doesn't need
    >> all the forming and curing time.  Years ago we did a project for a
    >> municipality, and they put in a 50' light pole for us to attach a
    >> single SM to, but they just backfilled the precast base with
    aggregate
    >> and did start to finish in a couple hours.  It was just a normal
    >> streetlight pole though, no pegs or anything.
    >>
    >


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