BLM takes a year or two and some money for the NEPA stuff.  The rest of them 
just take asking.  Sometimes you have to have a bond, but those are not 
terribly expensive.  Just ask for an excavation permit.  Here that app is 
online.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 1:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federal funding totals

you know, #1 is always what I figured would be the greatest hurdle. I figured 
it was costly and full of constand bureaucratic nonsense. Its what stopped me 
over the years from even considering spending much time looking into 
underground for my employer to self build or for me to do stuff. Its only been 
in this last year I started dealing with it and realizing its not that big of a 
deal, especially in podunk illinois. It really depends on how personable you 
can be with the commissioners and in small areas without state mother may Is, 
its not a bribe if nobody knows where he got whatever it is he likes

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

  1)    Go to the city, county or DOT and get a permit.  Cheap and easy.  I do 
it all the time.  Many times there are PUEs that you don’t need to even ask 
before you bury.  I get private easements all the time for the price of a stamp 
and recording.  Did 3 yesterday.  

  2)    Graybar, Codale, Millenium, Ebay.  Roll it, they will load it into the 
back of your truck.  You can build a cheap saw horse based reel holder.  

  3)    If you are a wisp or know a wisp you can get bandwidth.  

  4)    You cut the sod, fold it over, trench, backfill and fold the sod back.  
Or go to HD and buy seed.  

  5)    1/2” steel water pipe, garden hose on one end.  Dig a start hole.  Turn 
on water.  Start working the pipe under.  Helps if you have a nozzle on the 
end.  Or spend a few dollars for a missile.  

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 1:04 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federal funding totals

  How are you getting your permits?

  How are you getting a spool of fiber?  How are you moving it?


  You need bandwidth, how low can you possibly get that per month?

  If you're using a trencher, where are you getting the seed to fix the damage? 
 How are you getting under a driveway?

  On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

    Not true at all.  With a $1000 trencher, shovel and able body you are up 
and running.  

    From: Josh Luthman 
    Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 12:27 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federal funding totals

    Seriously, if you can't afford a trip to the show you simply can't afford a 
fiber project.  That's my opinion.

    On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:18 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      im trying to fund buying out a small underground construction outfit. I 
can barely afford to eat, let alone pay entry into WISPAmerica and the 
associated bail when the WISP degenerates get me drinking 


      On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:34 PM Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Go to WISPAmerica 2022 in NOLA.  Broadband Billions on Monday. 

        10s of billions maybe a few 100 billion in just the last couple of 
years.

        On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:31 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          CAF, RDOF, State level, COVID, etc 

          Is there a compiled list of all the funding for connectivity is out 
there? Im just looking for the numbers, not for funding. 
          I'm curious how much has been dispersed in the last decade, how much 
is pending dispersal, how much is pending allocation and how much is pending 
legislation.  Its got to be readily available info somewhere compiled
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