It’s variable depending on circumstances.
NY DOT sucks…..I mean they’re very competent they just have a lot of process to deal with and I don’t like it. Rural municipal DPW or road departments have been the best for me by far. Some of them don’t even have a permit process. one town highway guy literally told me “do what you want, just don’t hit our pipes”. Bigger cities can sometimes have frustrating rules. Everytime they pave the street in Binghamton, NY they have a 5 year moratorium on cutting the pavement. You can dig to respond to an emergency, but you will literally not be able to install a handhole for 5 years after they pave. Ithaca, NY doesn’t want anybody to build anything for any reason at all…..or so it seems sometimes. Counties were usually a simple one page application, but they can vary too. Worst ever was a wireless install on a pole in NY DOT right of way. The State of NY has a contract with Crown Castle to manage all wireless infrastructure on state property so you have all the state requirements PLUS you have to pay Crown Castle for engineering. Oh I damn near forgot about the railroad crossings. Getting permission takes $75,000+ and probably 6 months to a year. So yeah it *can* be a huge hurdle, but maybe the answer is just don’t build in places where they make it hard for you. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 3:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federal funding totals you know, #1 is always what I figured would be the greatest hurdle. I figured it was costly and full of constand bureaucratic nonsense. Its what stopped me over the years from even considering spending much time looking into underground for my employer to self build or for me to do stuff. Its only been in this last year I started dealing with it and realizing its not that big of a deal, especially in podunk illinois. It really depends on how personable you can be with the commissioners and in small areas without state mother may Is, its not a bribe if nobody knows where he got whatever it is he likes On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: 1) Go to the city, county or DOT and get a permit. Cheap and easy. I do it all the time. Many times there are PUEs that you don’t need to even ask before you bury. I get private easements all the time for the price of a stamp and recording. Did 3 yesterday. 2) Graybar, Codale, Millenium, Ebay. Roll it, they will load it into the back of your truck. You can build a cheap saw horse based reel holder. 3) If you are a wisp or know a wisp you can get bandwidth. 4) You cut the sod, fold it over, trench, backfill and fold the sod back. Or go to HD and buy seed. 5) 1/2” steel water pipe, garden hose on one end. Dig a start hole. Turn on water. Start working the pipe under. Helps if you have a nozzle on the end. Or spend a few dollars for a missile. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 1:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federal funding totals How are you getting your permits? How are you getting a spool of fiber? How are you moving it? You need bandwidth, how low can you possibly get that per month? If you're using a trencher, where are you getting the seed to fix the damage? How are you getting under a driveway? On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Not true at all. With a $1000 trencher, shovel and able body you are up and running. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 12:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Federal funding totals Seriously, if you can't afford a trip to the show you simply can't afford a fiber project. That's my opinion. On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:18 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: im trying to fund buying out a small underground construction outfit. I can barely afford to eat, let alone pay entry into WISPAmerica and the associated bail when the WISP degenerates get me drinking On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:34 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Go to WISPAmerica 2022 in NOLA. Broadband Billions on Monday. 10s of billions maybe a few 100 billion in just the last couple of years. On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:31 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: CAF, RDOF, State level, COVID, etc Is there a compiled list of all the funding for connectivity is out there? 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