I do about 14 miles per day on my EV.  Pretty sure my solar on both ends more 
than make up for it.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 10:27 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers

In some parts, yes. In most parts, it should be just fine.

There is a lot of bad faith arguments made on both sides. 

One of the big bad faith claims is some pile of math based on how much 
electrical demand there would be if everyone was fully regarding every day. Of 
the people that I know (not a small list), the only ones that drive over 200 
miles per day are UPS drivers. A few are in the 50 - 75 area. Most are under 25.



Yes, the California and Texas grids need help.




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From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 11:20:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers

There is the minor matter of our current electrical grid not being able to 
handle the load we have now, in some places. 

Better start building nuke plants!


Jeff Broadwick 
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  On Feb 14, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:


   
  It's not thye electric motors that are at fault. Once the battery tech gets 
sorted out, there will be no good reason to use dino-fuel.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 2/14/2022 9:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

    Sure, but efficiency isn't everything. Fortunately, EVs are also better at 
torque than diesel and gasoline. 

    Where they don't shine is range when actually working.




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    From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 11:06:28 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers


    It's approximately 33 KWH of electricity is equivalent to 1 gallon of 
gasoline (probably less for diesel), so EVs with 60-80 KWH batteries are 
running a couple hundred miles (or more) on the rough equivalent of < 3 gallons 
of gas.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 2/14/2022 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

      The funny thing is that while diesel has superior performance to gasoline 
in many ways, EVs have superior performance to diesel in many ways.

      Kinda ironic...




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      From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected]
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 9:46:36 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers


      It's called "rolling coal", and it is all the rage for people who think 
EVs are the devil's spawn.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 2/14/2022 6:38 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:

        In the past year I've observed that agressive driving seems to be the 
norm now.  More assholes, especially pickups using farm diesel 
(black-foul-smelling-smoke).  I been thinking of investing in a stash of bumper 
stickers to stick on their trucks that says "shoot me please".


        On 2/13/22 12:28, Steve Jones wrote:

          Its possible that with the lower threshold more folks were able to be 
arrested before they couldgo fora croaker cruise. 

          Its more probable though that ride sharing grew during that period 
and the generation of party drinkers used it more as a matter of trend.

          Drinking establishments being closed or otherwise inaccessible due to 
the rona too probably playeda huge role, like the seeming disappearance of flu. 




          On Sun, Feb 13, 2022, 1:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            During Covid, in Utah, there have been the highest rate of deaths 
ever recorded due to car crashes.
            Meanwhile, at approximately the same time another experiment was 
running.  

            Late 2018 Utah lowered the blood alcohol level for driving from .08 
to .05%.  
            Many, including myself, figured that there would not be a 
significant difference.  
            But I also commented at the time that this one will be easy to 
prove or disprove.  

            Deaths and crashes linked to drunken driving dropped by 19.8% since 
the law took effect.  I think one could say that is statistically significant.  
Glad I was wrong.  

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