They either have a heat pump or resistive heating. Heat pumps are much more efficient. On a Nissan Leaf you have to select a trim option that has a hybrid heater system. I have had both, both work just fine. He warm up the car a bit faster than an ICE does. Resistive heats noticeably faster.
Some cars have battery heaters. Leaf does not. That means in super cold, like 0 degrees outside, the battery range is about 60% of that during a hot summer day. My garage is not heated, that would make a difference. But that’s not all, you get a double whammy with cold because cold batts will not fully charge either. And it is a serious difference. In the summer I will not balk at a 120 mile RT drive. But super cold will cut that in half. That is not a hard limit, just the limit of comfort. It will go farther. And you can always drop to 20-30 mph in any electric and double the remaining range. From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 10:56 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers Since a lot of you guys seem to have first hand experience with the EV’s Ill ask. How do they do on range in cold environments? We have often wondered how they heat the inside of the vehicle in -10F and how it affects the range of the vehicle. Those temps are common for us in January and February. Thanks, Brandon From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 11:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers It's not thye electric motors that are at fault. Once the battery tech gets sorted out, there will be no good reason to use dino-fuel. bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 2/14/2022 9:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Sure, but efficiency isn't everything. Fortunately, EVs are also better at torque than diesel and gasoline. Where they don't shine is range when actually working. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 11:06:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers It's approximately 33 KWH of electricity is equivalent to 1 gallon of gasoline (probably less for diesel), so EVs with 60-80 KWH batteries are running a couple hundred miles (or more) on the rough equivalent of < 3 gallons of gas. bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 2/14/2022 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: The funny thing is that while diesel has superior performance to gasoline in many ways, EVs have superior performance to diesel in many ways. Kinda ironic... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 9:46:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers It's called "rolling coal", and it is all the rage for people who think EVs are the devil's spawn. bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 2/14/2022 6:38 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: In the past year I've observed that agressive driving seems to be the norm now. More assholes, especially pickups using farm diesel (black-foul-smelling-smoke). I been thinking of investing in a stash of bumper stickers to stick on their trucks that says "shoot me please". On 2/13/22 12:28, Steve Jones wrote: Its possible that with the lower threshold more folks were able to be arrested before they couldgo fora croaker cruise. Its more probable though that ride sharing grew during that period and the generation of party drinkers used it more as a matter of trend. Drinking establishments being closed or otherwise inaccessible due to the rona too probably playeda huge role, like the seeming disappearance of flu. On Sun, Feb 13, 2022, 1:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: During Covid, in Utah, there have been the highest rate of deaths ever recorded due to car crashes. Meanwhile, at approximately the same time another experiment was running. Late 2018 Utah lowered the blood alcohol level for driving from .08 to .05%. Many, including myself, figured that there would not be a significant difference. But I also commented at the time that this one will be easy to prove or disprove. Deaths and crashes linked to drunken driving dropped by 19.8% since the law took effect. I think one could say that is statistically significant. Glad I was wrong. -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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