The availability of guns isn't the problem. Turning nutcases into
celebrities is the problem. This wasn't a thing when I was in school
and guns were readily available.
Darin Steffl wrote:
Why is everyone's solution to spend tons more money on hardening
schools and adding more paid law enforcement?
The solution is and always has been to keep bad guys from getting
guns. It's much cheaper than hardening every public place. Why do you
want to make school a prison? Barbed wire fences, one door, armed
police or guards, etc. That's literally prison. Kids shouldn't have to
deal with that.
They should be able to go to a happy and pretty school campus and not
be shot by a crazy male American. This means making guns harder to
purchase, period!
If you only harden schools, how are you going to do the same to every
other public space like stores, theaters, stadiums, etc. You aren't.
Again, it's back to guns.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022, 1:38 PM <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That’s a fancy way to say you only get to lose a gunfight once.
*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2022 1:49 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
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*Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I don’t carry a
weapon because I don’t want that option. That option is one of
the initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary
differential equation.
I prefer a linear equation.
If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a
gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking
out the shooter. Let the cops do that.
*From:*Jason McKemie
*Sent:*Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be
more effective.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had
a school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing.
That's not necessarily a solution either.
On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to
police departments so that they can have a regular
presence at schools.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
How about we let the fire department handle active
shooters at schools.
They know how to get there fast. They are ready to go
at an instants notice.
They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors.
They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer
of kevlar.
Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the
way to the incident.
They sure as hell don’t stand around outside
discussing jurisdiction and strategy.
They care more about rescue than they do about their
own lives.
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