I was pretty sure this was already done around here.   Still a liability when 
school starts and ends.

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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
Date: Mon, Jun 6, 2022 12:38 PM

Why not equip all school doors with electrically controlled latches.  
Fire alarm automatically disables them unless there is a concurrent lock down 
alarm.  (Or maybe not.)  This would be very easy to do.  Even 
retrofit with wireless control.  Give all staff a pendent button 
lanyard.  Several buttons.  EMS, Shooter, Lower priority help 
button.  There is some money to be made there...




From: Andy Trimmell 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 10:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...



If 
anything shoots back or has the ability to do so most of them aren’t too 
interested in that from what I’ve experienced.  They get very upset if you 
don’t disclose if you had bullets or guns in the fire they’re working. If they 
find out they pull all of the fire fighters out.  

I’d 
be interested to see what a Department of Education Task Force or Police Force 
would look like to protect schools on a federal level.

But 
I’m all for 1st responders actually responding instead of spending 
their time fighting parents who want to go in and help save lives. I’m also for 
raising the age that a person can obtain a semi-automatic rifle and I’d like 
some kind of health screening done to obtain them. 

I 
have no problem passing a mental health screening to obtain 
anymore.

Just 
my opinion





From: AF 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill PrinceSent: 
Monday, June 06, 2022 12:14 PMTo: [email protected]: 
Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

Not a totally terribly idea..
I should point out that the city of Sunnyvale California eliminated the "fire 
department" many years ago (we lived in Sunnyvale until 1996). They have 
"Public 
Safety Officers". These officers patrol the city in police cruisers, and where 
they roam is determined by an algorithm that attempts to predict where they 
might be needed. Each officer has their fire fighting gear in the trunk of the 
cruiser so that if there's a fire, they will be ready. 
They city saved an enormous amount of money by combining the two departments, 
and their success rate is very good.
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On 6/6/2022 9:05 AM, Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:




I may regret posting 
this but I had a thought.



How about we let the 
fire department handle active shooters at schools.  


They know how to get 
there fast.  They are ready to go at an instants notice.  


They know how to 
breach any building and rescue survivors.

They have heavy 
protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar.  


Or give them 
extra/different gear they can don on the way to the incident.  


They sure as hell 
don’t stand around outside discussing jurisdiction and strategy.  


They care more about 
rescue than they do about their own lives.  




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