" I need to quit inciting riots. " *nods* I engage in a lot of this discourse other places, but AFMUG members seem to be less tolerant of that conversation and thus, people leave.
Perma-lent probably seems like a good idea. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck McCown via AF" <af@af.afmug.com> To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 4:32:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... Probably just as well. David Sovreen just unsubscribed... I need to quit inciting riots. From: Robert Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 2:35 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... Yeah, I think I am seeing snow in hell... On 6/6/22 1:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Now that’s a first! From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 1:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... rotflmao lent On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 2:46 PM Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: <blockquote> Why is everyone's solution to spend tons more money on hardening schools and adding more paid law enforcement? The solution is and always has been to keep bad guys from getting guns. It's much cheaper than hardening every public place. Why do you want to make school a prison? Barbed wire fences, one door, armed police or guards, etc. That's literally prison. Kids shouldn't have to deal with that. They should be able to go to a happy and pretty school campus and not be shot by a crazy male American. This means making guns harder to purchase, period! If you only harden schools, how are you going to do the same to every other public space like stores, theaters, stadiums, etc. You aren't. Again, it's back to guns. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022, 1:38 PM < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> That’s a fancy way to say you only get to lose a gunfight once. From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > Cc: Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I don’t carry a weapon because I don’t want that option. That option is one of the initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation. I prefer a linear equation. If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter. Let the cops do that. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be more effective. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: <blockquote> There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing. That's not necessarily a solution either. On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: <blockquote> Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police departments so that they can have a regular presence at schools. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> I may regret posting this but I had a thought. How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools. They know how to get there fast. They are ready to go at an instants notice. They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors. They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar. Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the way to the incident. They sure as hell don’t stand around outside discussing jurisdiction and strategy. They care more about rescue than they do about their own lives. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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