Apparently if you're a student teacher you get marked down for saying "you
guys" to a group of....  guys.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 3:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> I imagine the worst venue for this is if you were teaching college.  I
> think I would just use their names.  I would prefer to say Mr Howard and Mr
> Christian but I am certain that is stepping in a pile of poo too.  Mr and
> Ms are possibly verboten now?  I am wholly out of it when it comes to these
> things.
>
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2022 3:27 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
>
>
> Seems like it would be much simpler to just refer to everyone the same
> way.  If you’re talking about someone who isn’t around you can just say
> “that idiot” when referring to him/her/it/he/she and “those idiots” instead
> of they/them.  Much cleaner that way.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
> (List Account)
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:14 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
>
>
>
> I heard an admittedly right wing commenter describe it this way..
>
>
>
> You rarely use a gendered pronoun when talking to someone.    You use
> their name or "you".    You only use the gendered pronouns when they aren't
> around.
>
>
>
> So people asking you to use their preferred pronoun are asking you to
> change the way you refer to them when they aren't even around.
>
>
>
> Now, there are some people who I've met that use the "they" pronoun and I
> will say that neither of the gendered pronouns really apply to them and
> "they" is much more appropriate.
>
>
>
> It's the people who are obviously a specific gender and dress and behave
> like that gender that demand you refer to them using the opposite pronouns
> that drive me nuts.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 12:11 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> I don't really care what gender you want to be, or even no gender but I'm
> never saying "they is"  I will just refer to them by their name.  Sam is
> going to the store.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Phew. Glad I'm exempted.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 10/6/2022 10:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> BTW, boomers get a pass on all this complaining....
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:51 AM
>
> *To:* Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
>
>
>
> Just a way to classify the woke vs the unwoke.
>
> Forcing a weird and unnatural change in language.
>
> They/them/theirs are all plural.   Third person plural.  Adds confusion.
>
> Some languages do not genderize pronouns.  Everyone is it or its.
>
> But here you would offend someone by calling them it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Darin Steffl
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:23 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
>
>
>
> Why does this bother you? It's just an email signature.
>
>
>
> I don't list my pronouns anywhere, and have no desire to, but I'm
> certainly not offended or angered when I see someone list them in their
> email.
>
>
>
> Live and let live
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
> Got my first email where the sender listed their pronouns.
> It was from the clerk of the Utah court of appeals.
> She/Her/Hers
>
> I hope this does not become a thing.
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