Probably where Steve emptied his shitter.

bp
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On 10/13/2022 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Brownfield
*From:* Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:02 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
I consider greenfield a subdivision of any sort that only has end of the line DSL and/or wireless available.

On Thursday, October 13, 2022, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

    I call greenfield, dense new subdivisions where we can get into
    the power trenches for free.
    *From:* Bill Prince
    *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:01 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

    Where we live there is wireline...., but it was installed in ~~
    1975, and is _way_ past the rot stage. I would call this area
    greenfield as long as you can deal with a population density of
    about 3 or 4 people per square mile.

    bp
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    On 10/13/2022 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield.



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    I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have
    never felt a need to overbuild.  I find it odd that CATV
    companies will install coax in these subdivisions but never
    return to activate it.  We love those.
    *From:* [email protected]
    *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
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    Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just
    because they hate the cable company that much.

    You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some
    more.

    If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the
    effort and money into getting the message out then you get the
    30%.  It’s not 30% across the board either, in some areas we end
    up higher than that, but 30% seems to be a safe enough number to
    plan on.

    So it certainly helps to undercut them.  Internet customers have
    a lot of momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to
    switch right now then they won’t switch right now just because
    they’re not thinking about it most of the time.  Even if they
    have a reason to switch they may not even know you’re there, and
    the cable company has so much advertising the customer will
    always be aware of them.  Even when you build in an unserved area
    and you’re infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL
    options you STILL have to put effort into making the sales
    because a lot of the people out there made their peace with what
    they have, and they’re not going to seek you out until something
    triggers them to do so.

    *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
    *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM
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    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

    Do you have to undercut to get penetration?



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    *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

    About 30%

    We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and
    undercutting them at $50/month vs their $75/month.

    *From:*AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
    *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
    *Subject:* [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network

    Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a
    scenario where you are overlaying a cable network?  I'm getting
    to the point where that may be the direction I have to go.

    Thanks.


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