Coincidentally it is the actual location of the shitter, hopefully it
hasn't been emptied there though.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 1:05 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

> Probably where Steve emptied his shitter.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 10/13/2022 10:54 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> Brownfield
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:02 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>
> I consider greenfield a subdivision of any sort that only has end of the
> line DSL and/or wireless available.
>
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I call greenfield, dense new subdivisions where we can get into the power
>> trenches for free.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:01 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>>
>>
>> Where we live there is wireline...., but it was installed in ~~ 1975, and
>> is _way_ past the rot stage. I would call this area greenfield as long as
>> you can deal with a population density of about 3 or 4 people per square
>> mile.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 10/13/2022 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
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>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:[email protected]
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
>> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:30:57 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>>
>> I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt a
>> need to overbuild.  I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax in
>> these subdivisions but never return to activate it.  We love those.
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they
>> hate the cable company that much.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort
>> and money into getting the message out then you get the 30%.  It’s not 30%
>> across the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30%
>> seems to be a safe enough number to plan on.
>>
>>
>>
>> So it certainly helps to undercut them.  Internet customers have a lot of
>> momentum.  If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now
>> then they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it
>> most of the time.  Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even
>> know you’re there, and the cable company has so much advertising the
>> customer will always be aware of them.  Even when you build in an unserved
>> area and you’re infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL
>> options you STILL have to put effort into making the sales because a lot of
>> the people out there made their peace with what they have, and they’re not
>> going to seek you out until something triggers them to do so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have to undercut to get penetration?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: Image removed by
>> sender.]
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *[email protected]
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>>
>> About 30%
>>
>> We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them
>> at $50/month vs their $75/month.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network
>>
>>
>>
>> Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a
>> scenario where you are overlaying a cable network?  I'm getting to the
>> point where that may be the direction I have to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
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