There is definitely more new construction in other areas of the country - as is evident by Chuck's greenfield options.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 3:24 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > Wonder if that has something to do with crazy Illinois taxes? > > We've got dozens of new neighborhoods here in the last <5 years. Town is > only 26k people. > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 4:15 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Also, there are very little actual greenfields happening. People just >> aren't building new subdivisions anywhere near here. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 3:00:48 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >> >> Sure, but even from this distance out, I look another hour or two away >> and it's not much different. >> >> Towns and subdivisions have coverage from a cable or fiber operator >> already. Not in towns or subdivisions and it isn't worth doing a wireline >> solution to. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 2:48:45 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >> >> Move more than 60 minutes away from one of the largest cities in the >> country? >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:46 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I can't imagine a world where there's a wireline greenfield. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >>> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:30:57 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >>> >>> I seem to have more green field that I can get to and I have never felt >>> a need to overbuild. I find it odd that CATV companies will install coax >>> in these subdivisions but never return to activate it. We love those. >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:45 AM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Some people will sign up even if you’re higher priced, just because they >>> hate the cable company that much. >>> >>> >>> >>> You can offer higher speed at the same price and you’ll get some more. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you offer higher speed, and also lower price, and also put the effort >>> and money into getting the message out then you get the 30%. It’s not 30% >>> across the board either, in some areas we end up higher than that, but 30% >>> seems to be a safe enough number to plan on. >>> >>> >>> >>> So it certainly helps to undercut them. Internet customers have a lot >>> of momentum. If there’s no compelling reason for them to switch right now >>> then they won’t switch right now just because they’re not thinking about it >>> most of the time. Even if they have a reason to switch they may not even >>> know you’re there, and the cable company has so much advertising the >>> customer will always be aware of them. Even when you build in an unserved >>> area and you’re infinitely better than the satellite or long range DSL >>> options you STILL have to put effort into making the sales because a lot of >>> the people out there made their peace with what they have, and they’re not >>> going to seek you out until something triggers them to do so. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2022 10:02 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you have to undercut to get penetration? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: >>> Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> [image: Image removed by sender.] >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: Image removed by >>> sender.] >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *[email protected] >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 13, 2022 8:44:00 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >>> >>> About 30% >>> >>> We’re intentionally overbuilding Spectrum/Charter, and undercutting them >>> at $50/month vs their $75/month. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2022 5:36 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Overlaying Cable Network >>> >>> >>> >>> Those of you doing fiber, what are you seeing for take-rates in a >>> scenario where you are overlaying a cable network? 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