Too many parents want to be friends with their kids and not actually parent.  
Good news is, if you do a good job of parenting, you’ll likely have the 
opportunity out to become friends with your kids after they move out.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
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> On Feb 14, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, that’s a problem for sure.
>  
> All the youth (and some adults) see online is prosperity and wealth and 
> entitlement.
>  
> Your definition of existing just doesn’t even come to their minds. To use a 
> phrase, they literally don’t comprehend it.
>  
> I was living happily in a one room apartment for $400 a month and eating the 
> same PB&J and soup for lunch/dinner on almost no monthly spend.
> I had an old futon bed that I had purchased in college as furniture. My 
> monthly output was focused on paying rent and a bit for food and my car.
>  
> I was hungry for more, made my way by learning, taking what I could find and 
> working my way up.
>  
> And during none of that did I think to myself, “This is shit, I am entitled 
> to more because I exist.” Lol
>  
> My grown kids ask for very little and even then get told no all the time, or 
> have conditions.
> I worry about my younger kids that have spent a lot more time online. They 
> still know they get nothing as a default, but they are more entitled in 
> language and practice than my older kids.
> Society online in general isn’t doing anyone any favors.
>  
> I mean some of the youtube crap they watch is just inane, and some of these 
> people just throw around money like it magically appeared to them out of thin 
> air without a care.
> There is no accountability or explanation.
>  
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 10:37 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
>  
> I advertised for hiring yesterday, a no experience necessary, get paid to 
> learn MIG mild steel welding.   PT/FT flexible hours.  We hire 17 year olds.  
> I immediately got crap from this guy saying that the “young people of today” 
> cannot exist on less than $18/hour which is what he gets and he works from 
> home. 
>  
> Lots of people defended my $15/entry level, get paid to learn welding 
> position. 
> He deleted his post then sent me this: 
>  
> Hello there,
>  
> Our of respect for you because it wasn't my intent to cause tension, I've 
> deleted my comment on your posting. My only point was to emphasize that the 
> going rate for a lot of entry level jobs is much higher than $15 an hour. 
> Welding is a great skill and can open up great avenues in the future.
>  
> However, The youth of today cannot live on $15 an hour so a lot of candidates 
> will not even walk through the door because other places even in the field of 
> welding pay higher to start.
>  
> What I emphasized at my company starting at $18 is just one example. We have 
> people here that make well over $50 an hour because we operate on a 
> commission structure. But that $18 base is livable when a one bedroom is 
> $1000+ in tooele a month and depending on where you live it's as low as $1600+
>  
> Again, never meant to offend so I am sorry for causing you any trouble.
>  
> I replied:
> So you expect someone to walk from High School directly into a job where they 
> can have a nice home, car and things?  Wow, without learning a trade, 
> profession or other skill?   Our $15/hour people take home $2000/month.  
> Pretty sure someone can exist on that and the smart ones will have roommates 
> or live with their parents.  And the smarter ones will quickly be making more 
> than $18/hour.  We have exactly zero problems finding as many workers as we 
> need.  So your opinion that "youth of today" cannot exist on $15/hour is just 
> that, unfounded opinion.  I guess your definition of "exist" is different 
> than mine.  You can exist by walking, riding a bicycle or taking a bus to 
> work.  You can exist by eating home cooked meals and making a home made 
> sandwich for your lunch.  You can exist by wearing clothes from a thrift 
> store.  You don't need the latest iPhone and Netflix to exist.  Read a book.  
> The struggle IS the journey and is what creates grit and strong character.
>  
> He replied and blocked me: 
> Yeah Okay Boomer. I was reaching out to be nice but you clearly have no idea 
> what life is like for us today. I just bought my first house at 31 because of 
> how shit things are right now compared to when you were younger. But thanks 
> for proving my point by being an asshole about "my definition of exist"
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