https://youtu.be/CGbgAisf6_c

Apparently spoofing this

https://youtu.be/a_1OVYsLqMU

On 2/7/2024 10:16 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

I always used a potato.


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On 2/7/2024 7:48 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Variac is just an autotransformer with a variable tap. Not surprising you can swap input and output. Watch out for voltage ratings though. And wrong gender plugs.

I thought it was potato in the tailpipe.

---- Original Message ----
From: "Cameron Crum"
Sent: 2/7/2024 9:15:03 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun trick running a variac in reverse

Ah the old 'variac in reverse' trick, similar to a banana in the tailpipe.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:05?PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

    Was testing a repair to a 480 volt induction heater today.  One
    of our employees decided to blow the dirt out of it, took the
    cover off and got a copper tube across an inductor to case
    ground.  It was probably 800 VDC at that spot. Discharged the
    capacitor.  Sounded like a gunshot.  Tripped a 125 amp 480 volt
    breaker at our power service panel.  Turning it off at the front
    switch just turns off the control circuitry.  Everything else is
    hot unless you kill the breaker on the back of the unit.  I think
    the kid is still shaking.
    In any event, took the power supply to the lab.  Used a variac to
    put 0 to 130 volts across each leg with a clamp on volt meter on
    it as I tested.  Never got past 10 volts and was drawing 3-5
    amps.  3 phase bridge rectifier was totally shorted out.  Exactly
    as expected.  These things take raw 480 VAC, rectifier, 800 VDC
    cap and then on to the IGBT transistors that chop it into ac
    etc.  I was hoping it was just the rectifier.
    So we got the replacement today.  Put it in and started testing. 
    No current, all the way up to 130 volts.  But the cap was
    charging.  So far looks good.  Told my sons to take it back and
    hook it up to 480.  My son Frank said “just reverse your variac
    and use it to step up”.  I initially refused to believe it would
    work. Then I thought through it a bit and decided that it
    actually should work.
    I started with the variac set at 130 volts output.  Feeding 120
    into the output gave us about 110 on the input (that was
    connected across one phase of the induction unit).  As I turned
    the variac down the voltage went up.  I got to 380 volts before
    we started smelling that wonderful “Allen Bradley” wafting
    through the lab and the variac started buzzing pretty bad. I
    think I got it down to about 60 volts.  But we got it high enough
    out (in?)  that the control transformer made enough juice to
    power the control circuitry.  It appears that the machine is
    fixed.  Of course until we actually try to use it we will not
    know for certain.
    But the TL;DR is:  You can run a variac backwards and make higher
    voltages.
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