We had a lot of hijinks in the lab as well. Today though, if there was a
pop like that, half the class would have to go to trauma counseling and
need a safe space to do their work the rest of the year.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:39 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> When I was in college we had something called cooperative education or
> “coop jobs”, basically a semester in industry as a paid intern.  At my coop
> job you typically arrived at 8am, grabbed coffee from the machine, and
> turned on the power strip at your lab bench.
>
>
>
> They never tired of sticking an electrolytic capacitor into one of the
> outlets on your power strip so it would explode.
>
>
>
> Almost as much fun as a banana potato.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2024 10:16 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fun trick running a variac in reverse
>
>
>
> I always used a potato.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 2/7/2024 7:48 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Variac is just an autotransformer with a variable tap. Not surprising you
> can swap input and output. Watch out for voltage ratings though. And wrong
> gender plugs.
>
> I thought it was potato in the tailpipe.
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Cameron Crum"
> Sent: 2/7/2024 9:15:03 AM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fun trick running a variac in reverse
>
> Ah the old 'variac in reverse' trick, similar to a banana in the tailpipe.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:05?PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Was testing a repair to a 480 volt induction heater today.  One of our
> employees decided to blow the dirt out of it, took the cover off and got a
> copper tube across an inductor to case ground.  It was probably 800 VDC at
> that spot.  Discharged the capacitor.  Sounded like a gunshot.  Tripped a
> 125 amp 480 volt breaker at our power service panel.  Turning it off at the
> front switch just turns off the control circuitry.  Everything else is hot
> unless you kill the breaker on the back of the unit.  I think the kid is
> still shaking.
>
>
>
> In any event, took the power supply to the lab.  Used a variac to put 0 to
> 130 volts across each leg with a clamp on volt meter on it as I tested.
> Never got past 10 volts and was drawing 3-5 amps.  3 phase bridge rectifier
> was totally shorted out.  Exactly as expected.  These things take raw 480
> VAC, rectifier, 800 VDC cap and then on to the IGBT transistors that chop
> it into ac etc.  I was hoping it was just the rectifier.
>
>
>
> So we got the replacement today.  Put it in and started testing.  No
> current, all the way up to 130 volts.  But the cap was charging.  So far
> looks good.  Told my sons to take it back and hook it up to 480.  My son
> Frank said “just reverse your variac and use it to step up”.  I initially
> refused to believe it would work.  Then I thought through it a bit and
> decided that it actually should work.
>
>
>
> I started with the variac set at 130 volts output.  Feeding 120 into the
> output gave us about 110 on the input (that was connected across one phase
> of the induction unit).  As I turned the variac down the voltage went up.
> I got to 380 volts before we started smelling that wonderful “Allen
> Bradley” wafting through the lab and the variac started buzzing pretty
> bad.  I think I got it down to about 60 volts.  But we got it high enough
> out (in?)  that the control transformer made enough juice to power the
> control circuitry.  It appears that the machine is fixed.  Of course until
> we actually try to use it we will not know for certain.
>
>
>
> But the TL;DR is:  You can run a variac backwards and make higher
> voltages.
>
>
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