So I'm a fan of billing systems doing billing and not a lot else.  There
needs to be ways to script some provisioning...  mainly lock and unlock and
some way to make sure a customer is getting only what they're paying for.

If you're looking for a system that does that...  bills customers reliably,
then I'd have to recommend billmax.

- Forrest

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 12:07 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> What constitutes a good billing solution depends on what you are billing
> for (goods, services), what else you want it to do, and what other systems
> it should integrate with.
>
>
>
> If you are just billing people for microtrenching saws, that’s very
> different than if you are billing for recurring Internet service.
>
>
>
> As an ISP, we usually want to give customers a (secure) online payment
> portal where they can view their account status and pay their bills, change
> their credit card on file, etc.  We also usually want it to integrate with
> our operations systems so people get notified if they are past due, get
> automatically turned off after a grace period, and can pay online and get
> automatically turned back on.  Ideally with exceptions like don’t turn off
> the police station or the hospital without approval from a manager.  We
> also want it to understand things like monthly bills are due on the service
> anniversary date but are sent out 20 days in advance, and not get confused
> by things like 28 day months or leap years.  None of this is pertinent if
> you are selling goods not services.
>
>
>
> Customers also don’t seem to understand the difference between an invoice
> and a statement.  I think they expect something like a utility bill, which
> typically shows account balance at the beginning of the period, payments
> received and services invoiced since then, and the new account balance.
> Kind of a combination invoice and statement.  Also a place for notices,
> like our terms of service have changed, our payment address has changed,
> etc.
>
>
>
> Our current system does none of that, so I have nothing to recommend.  As
> others have said, it is not realistic to love your billing system.  Maybe
> one could aspire to hate it less?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *David Hannum
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2025 11:47 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing
>
>
>
> We've been with Powercode since I believe 2009.  We've frequently looked
> at other options and have always felt that Powercode was the best bang for
> the buck for our company.  Nothing ever wowed me enough to want to jump
> ship.  None of them are perfect.  We've always gotten good support from
> Powercode - actually pretty great support at times.  They've always
> responded quickly to custom reports and bug fixes.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 12:40 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I don't hate power code.I don't really love it or like it, but it
> functions.It works.It gives me what I need and irritates the hell out of me
> and sometimes bills are customers too much. It's monitoring system is a
> little archaic, but it can be made to work.
> Their support is hit-or-miss around The Times of any of the industry
> events. There is no support because they pretty much closed their doors.
> Overall it gets us through the day and it's not but it's not cheap
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 9:34 AM Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Simon is out at Sonar. Hasn't been there in over a year. It is majority
> owned by Blue Star (Jerry Jones).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 9:05 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We are probably also dropping Playt but I have heard some ungood things
> about Sonar…
>
>
>
> Like they have stopped developing and support is not as good as it used to
> be.
>
> Don’t remember who said it and they may just be a sore head too.
>
>
>
> I presume Simon is still involved?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
> Technologies via AF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2025 6:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing
>
>
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> We are finally dropping Platypus and moving to sonar.  Not in love with it
> yet.  verifying and transferring our 12 year old data has not been fun.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
>  Mark                            mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>
>
>
> Myakka Communications
>
> www.Myakka.com
>
>
>
> ------
>
>
>
> Wednesday, April 16, 2025, 6:33:08 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>
> Once again, we are considering going to hopefully something better in the
> billing department.
>
> Anyone love their billing software?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Chuck McCown
>
> McCown Technology Corporation
>
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