A cable comes in 20k feet.  Just imagine you place 20k feet along the size
of the road.

Now you have 10 houses.  You put a concrete box between the houses.  Inside
that concrete box, you leave & open up 50 foot of cable (mid span, ring
cut) and then you can see all 144 fibers.  2 houses there so 2 fibers.  We
take Aqua/Aqua and Aqua/Rose, cut it, and leave it for those 2 houses.  At
the next concrete box with 2 houses, you're cutting Aqua/Violet and
Aqua/Rose.

As far as tools, a $1000 splicer does fine.  Maybe a $300 if you ask.  I
have the opinion if your installer is too dumb to splice a fiber, he is too
dumb to be in front of your customers.  But yes, it is much easier for an
installer to plug in an MST - but you are paying for that proprietary
connector.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 12:14 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK, that helps.  I assume MST avoids every installer having the equipment
> and training to do fusion splices.
>
>
>
> But I’m still not understanding in an underground scenario, with a
> handhole at every passing, what do you splice the drop cable to, and
> where?  Is there a pre installed fiber stub in every handhole for that
> customer, going back to a splitter at another handhole down the street?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2025 10:40 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] how is underground FTTH done?
>
>
>
> Splitters are waaay small.  Smaller than a standard house key.
>
>
>
> What you are looking at is an MST terminal, looks like 8 ports.  There can
> be a splitter inside of that yes.  You can have the MST with 8 fibers
> splice to another 8 fibers or you can have what is in your picture have 1
> fiber in, split 1x8, and then have 8 ports out for the installers to simply
> plug in to.
>
>
>
> If that MST is a 1x8, you can have a 1x4 before it, between the MST and
> OLT.  That makes for OLT -> 1x4 splitter -> 1x8 splitter/MST.  That is
> still a 1x32 split.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 11:34 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I thought PON used like 16:1 or 32:1 splitters, and in this photo, I
> assumed that’s what the black boxes were.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2025 10:16 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] how is underground FTTH done?
>
>
>
> Don't assume that about aerial.  That's not how it works.  Don't think
> about it in terms of taps.
>
>
>
> Generally speaking, installations are PON.  What we do is design the fiber
> so we can hook up 100% of homes.  We assign a color to every house.
>
>
>
> The first thing to think about is that you have to access the individual
> strand out of the cable, be it 12/24/48/144/etc.  That is done with a
> SpliceCase or you splice on an MST for an ez mode plug.  At Imagine we only
> splice - no connectors, no MST, no plugs, etc.
>
>
> Second thing is that when there's a cable up and down the road, you just
> need access to it through the case/MST from the house.  This can be from
> the house to the handhole (concrete box in the ground) or you can run it
> from the house to the handhole through some 1.25" duct to the next handhole
> where there is one case.
>
>
>
> I can show you what it looks like if you don't get it yet.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 11:11 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The fiber train left without me, so maybe someone here can help me
> understand how the physical installation is typically done.
>
>
>
> I’ve seen aerial fiber and it’s pretty straightforward, I see splitters up
> on poles maybe at each intersection, and to hook up a customer, they run a
> drop wire from the nearest splitter to the house.  If take rate is better
> than expected or a new house is built, worst case I assume they just add a
> splitter.
>
>
>
> But I also see FTTH deployments going in where they are boring for duct in
> the ROW and putting a little handhole in front of every house.  How does
> this work?  Are they using taps instead of splitters?  If not, when they
> get a customer install order, do they pull his drop cable through all the
> handholes to a splitter?  That doesn’t seem feasible.  Are they dedicating
> a strand to each house and pulling the main cable out each time and
> splicing to that strand?  And what if they estimate the take rate wrong, or
> a new house is built?
>
>
>
> There’s probably a simple explanation and once someone enlightens me it
> will be a Duh! moment.
>
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