I think the problem is we deal so much now in code words and dog whistles and the like.
So if you don't like something or someone, you can label them with a codeword like racist or antisemitic or woke or antifa, that has absolutely no connection to what they did or what the word means, it's just a label to justify disliking them (or deporting them or killing them). So antifa literally means anti fascist, and I would agree, I hope most people are against fascism, given 20th century history with it. So maybe you mean the organization Antifa, but there is no such organization. Maybe you mean uneducated pot smoking dirt poor atheists? Maybe you mean left leaning degenerates who conspire on Discord? I guess maybe when using a term in a non literal sense, you need to supply your definition. I still have never met someone who claimed to be a member of a formal antifa organization. Well, except the Blues Brothers, who hated Illinois Nazis and ran them off a bridge with the Bluesmobile. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 2:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix, dopamine you know) My brother does that all the time.....putting words in people's mouth. Drives me nuts. Me: <makes a statement about something> Bro: "So you support pure evil?" Me: ....... Alternate version: "By your logic, <something insane and unrelated to my logic>." He didn't say he supports fascism. And law enforcement or intelligence agencies monitoring potential threats is not fascism. _____ From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 1:44 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix, dopamine you know) So you are in favor of fascism? bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/18/2025 10:33 AM, <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: They are being tracked on their signal and discourse channels. I think our intelligence branch views them as an "organization", just decentralized without clear leader. From: AF <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 10:55 AM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix, dopamine you know) What a lot of people fail to understand is that there is no "antifa" organization. It's more of a philosophy (IMO). Sure, a lot of marginalized people probably ascribe to the notion of antifa. However, I would say that the majority of Americans are against the idea of fascism. Tell me you're in favor of fascism. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/18/2025 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Is your sphere of influence real life people you know, or online stuff? I honestly have never had a single person IRL mention Antifa, much less belong to such an organization. And Utah seems an unlikely place to have Antifa cells. But Howard from Big Bang Theory reminds us you don't need to experience something to know you want it: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o Maybe you mean nihilism and not literally Antifa. There seems to be a bumper crop of disaffected nihilists these days. Not sure that fits neatly into a left/right political narrative. More like there will always be people who think the world has screwed them over and want to burn the whole thing down. From: AF <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 11:16 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling fix, dopamine you know) Odd that the majority of the people in my sphere of influence that are espousing the goodness of antifa are all uniformly: uneducated, pot smoking, un churched, and in many cases with minor criminal records, but all of them are as poor as dirt it seems. Poverty is what drove the Russian revolution. Perhaps that is the driver here. I just cannot get behind the ideology. 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