1) cite something in a public paper, FROM PORTLAND, where they called
themselves antifa. 2) It wasn't a police station 3) it was a fire set
_inside_ the union hall 4) The building didn't burn. Any one of those
would be enough to throw shade on Your statement. How about some
references in your reply. I was citing Wikipedia ( yes it can be
questioned but it it a peer review. with sources! )
On 9/18/25 5:25 PM, Chuck wrote:
They poured accelerant on the front of the building and set it on
fire. It was extinguished right away. They called themselves antifa.
What is incorrect here?
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On Sep 18, 2025, at 3:46 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
WELL CHUCK.... Capitals because someone I respect seems to be
spreading poor information without doing much research.... DETAILS
MATTER... specially if you are getting pretty close to yelling fire
in a theater... Is there a difference between a union hall and a
police station, YES, are they both building that the police use,
YES. Is burning one worse than the other Yes and no. Did the
building actually burn NO. Your response was so far below what I
would expect from you, I have to either figure you are seriously
stirring the pot for no good, or you just don't care anymore what
people think of you.
Chatgpt...
I couldn’t find credible evidence that /Antifa/ definitively *burned
a Portland police station*. What I did find is more nuanced — there
/were/ fire-and-vandalism incidents in Portland during protests,
sometimes targeting police or police union buildings, but no clear
record of Antifa burning a full police station.
Here’s a summary of what I found:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
What /does/ appear to be true
*
During the George Floyd protests in Portland (2020-2021),
protesters broke into the Portland Police Association (PPA)
building on North Lombard Street and set fire inside it. Some
windows were smashed, security cameras damaged, and a dumpster
was set ablaze among other acts. (Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland%2C_Oregon?utm_source=chatgpt.com>)
*
These events are documented in multiple sources, including
reports that the PPA (a police union building) was vandalized and
partially burned. (Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland%2C_Oregon?utm_source=chatgpt.com>)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I /didn’t/ find confirmed
*
I did *not* find credible, well-documented evidence that a /full
police precinct / station house/ was burned down or destroyed by
Antifa (or protesters self-identifying as such).
*
Some reports, particularly from less reliable outlets or
opinion/rumor sources, make claims like “BLM or Antifa protesters
burned a police station,” but these are not substantiated in
reputable news or official records. For example, a claim in the
/New York Post/ says protesters set a police station on fire.
However, that article lacks verification from local fire or
police department sources. (New York Post
<https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-protesters-set-portland-police-station-on-fire/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you want, I can try tracking down any fire department or official
records to see exactly what was burned and when — that might clarify
whether “station house” means union building vs precinct vs
administrative offices, etc. Do you want me to dig into that?
On 9/18/25 3:20 PM, Chuck wrote:
All the maskef antifas burning police stations proclamed they were
antifa.
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On Sep 18, 2025, at 2:59 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
I guess I don't see anyone from Antifa telling comics that they
have to get off the air. Actually I have not heard ONE single
person declare themselves as antifa, but plenty of MAGA saying that
someone was antifa because they didn't like the words coming out of
their mouths. And then actually striking out against that
person. Physically or politically...
On 9/18/25 1:29 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
When Antifa says fascism, they just mean anything not on the
extreme left. If they disagree with you, you are a fascist. There
is no relevance to actual fascism like you think about from WW2,
and in fact most of their "actions" are far closer to that fascism
than anything the "right" is doing.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 11:56 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
What a lot of people fail to understand is that there is no
"antifa" organization. It's more of a philosophy (IMO). Sure,
a lot of marginalized people probably ascribe to the notion of
antifa.
However, I would say that the majority of Americans are
against the idea of fascism.
Tell me you're in favor of fascism.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 9/18/2025 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Is your sphere of influence real life people you know, or
online stuff? I honestly have never had a single person IRL
mention Antifa, much less belong to such an organization. And
Utah seems an unlikely place to have Antifa cells.
But Howard from Big Bang Theory reminds us you don’t need to
experience something to know you want it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o
Maybe you mean nihilism and not literally Antifa. There seems
to be a bumper crop of disaffected nihilists these days. Not
sure that fits neatly into a left/right political narrative.
More like there will always be people who think the world has
screwed them over and want to burn the whole thing down.
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Odd that the majority of the people in my sphere of influence
that are espousing the goodness of antifa are all uniformly:
uneducated, pot smoking, un churched, and in many cases with
minor criminal records, but all of them are as poor as dirt
it seems. Poverty is what drove the Russian revolution.
Perhaps that is the driver here.
I just cannot get behind the ideology. This is what
Wikipedia says:
*Ideology
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_ideologies>***
Anti-fascism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism>
Anti-authoritarianism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-authoritarianism>
Anti-capitalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-capitalism>
Anti-statism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-statism>
Anti-Trumpism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump>
Anarchism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism>
Socialism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism>
Communism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism>
*Political position
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum>***
Left-wing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics>
*Major actions***
Direct action <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action>
Community organizing
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing>
Mutual aid <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_aid>
Harassment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment>
Digital activism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_activism>
Doxing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing>
Picketing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing>
Political violence
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_violence>
Protest marching <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_march>
*Status***
Active
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