Name one restriction limiting criticism of the president that survived
scrutiny.
bp
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On 9/20/2025 10:11 AM, Chuck wrote:
There old laws restricting free speech. He is attempting to ressurect
them. If successful then yes, some forms of free speech would not be
lawful.
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On Sep 20, 2025, at 10:56 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
Saying that free speech isn't legal is honest?
bp
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On 9/20/2025 9:46 AM, Chuck wrote:
Trump at least has enough honesty to say he wants to shut down those
that bother him. While it seems very un American at least he is up
front. I find that better than the Biden admin using the FBI to
lean on FB & Twitter to delete content and kill accounts. Both are
a fascist’s tactic/maneuver.
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On Sep 20, 2025, at 10:10 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
I’m not sure it matters a whole lot whether some violent protestors
or hooligans are Antifa or not. If they use “black bloc”
techniques and arson, maybe they are just some bad dudes.
What concerns me more is that everything lately is done by “the
left” or “the right”. Not a particular person I can name, like
this or that senator or my neighbor Bob. My observation was this
used to be more common with the media supporting DJT because he
blames “the lunatic radical left”, but now the progressive leaning
media is blaming everything on “the right”.
It’s as if all people belong to one or the other, and you can
identify them on site. When in reality I think most people if you
asked them whether they are “the left” or “the right” would reject
those labels. And they are the same species and look the same.
(Well, I’ll make an exception for the MAGA cult, they wear red hats
to declare their identity. I feel like MAGA isn’t the same as “the
right” although lots of people would disagree.)
A specific person, Tyler Robinson, shot Charlie Kirk. But that
doesn’t fit anyone’s preconceived narrative or advance their agenda
or put money in their pocket. It must be the fault of some group I
dislike. He did it because he was raised in a conservative family.
He did it because the left called Kirk bad names. He did it
because of the transgender roommate. Who knows? The only
information we have from the killer’s own words is Kirk said things
that pissed him off. I never followed Charlie Kirk, but in
retrospect he said some things I find offensive. But apparently in
a spirit of free discussion. Do we kill people now for saying
things we find offensive? I hope it hasn’t come to that. I’d bet
most of us would have to kill several people per day.
Who remembers Joe McCarthy and McCarthyism? You could destroy
someone by calling them a Communist, you didn’t need proof, and it
didn’t really have that much to do with Communism. It was just a
label you could throw at someone. So if Joe says Chuck is a
Communist, and Steve protests that he knows Chuck and he isn’t a
Communist, then Steve must be a Communist, and he must be destroyed
as well.
Some of these labels like the left, the right, woke, anti-semitic,
terrorist, etc. feel like McCarthyism to me.
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, September 20, 2025 9:10 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"
I can make a website like that today.
and I don't really give a shit because it's not a real organization.
If you google "join antifa", you will get at least a dozen
different places to go; all disconnected from one another.
Name their leader.
bp
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On 9/19/2025 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Not organized?
https://www.joinantifa.org/
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