Any other person this would have been a class "C" felony and jail for years and years.  Has he even paid his fine yet?  Who did he bribe?  Maybe it was an "offer they couldn't refuse"?

On 9/22/25 09:55, Steve Jones wrote:
"fraud" lol, where a never used rule was used? for "victims" that said they werent victims?
100m is peanuts in those transactions.
that like a 256mb thumbdrive in a datacenter

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

    His fraud was in the neighborhood of well over 100 million
    dollars. If that's no big deal to you, then you operate in a
    different financial mind space than 99% of the US.

    To me that is not in the same league as jay walking.

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 9/22/2025 8:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:

    OK, on the felony thing: It was 34 acts of posting a legal
    expense to a general ledger account that the extremely biased and
    politically motivated prosecutor, judge and jury found to be
    “improper”, as perhaps the GL account number offended their feng
    shui.  The IRS and the NY department of revenue were not
    offended.  Meh they said.  This was seriously thin soup.  But
    they got it rammed through.  All individually were misdemeanors. 
    Equivalent to jay walking or spitting your gum on the street.

    However NY has a rule that if you have enough misdemeanors in one
    pile you can convert them to a felony.

    So anyone saying: ” yeah that felon” gets a snicker and smirk
    from me. Like, is that the best you can do?

    *From:*AF <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
    *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:34 PM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

    34 count felon by several juries makes one want to give him a
    hug?  I have daughters and grand-daughters and I know he's been
    on that island with Jeffrey and on the Lolita express more than
    once by his own words.  That's another factoid that makes him
    disgusting to me. Do you need more than juries to know you have
    to agree for a serial rapist to be put in jail?  How about the
    prisons in Utah?  You want them to release all the rapists
    because you personally don't know  and don't want to vilify/judge
    them? I didn't personally meet Hitler nor Stalin, either.  I
    think that's pretty bad to give criminals that big of a break. 
    Rape, child rape, bank fraud, tax fraud, the list gets too
    extensive... because now it's escalated up to murder, multiple. 
    The only explanation is organized crime made a deal they (the
    GOP) couldn't refuse!

    On 9/21/25 12:09, Jan-GAMs wrote:

        I am absolutely positive 90% of my ancestors fought in the
        revolution against King George and those same ancestors are
        rolling in their graves about how another usurper criminal
        felon King Don is in the whitehouse.  Absolutely positive
        about it.  Not at all mixed about it.  I didn't like him at
        all 30 years ago, found his TV shows offensive, found
        everything about him to be rude, crud and lewd, repulsive in
        every way.  Only thing I can figure is the state of Nevada
        said he couldn't own a casino in their state because he was
        mafia and I agree with their opinion.  He must have made an
        offer to the GOP and Supreme court they couldn't refuse
        (godfather) and they took the offer.

        On 9/21/25 11:22, Bill Prince wrote:

            Not mixed at all for me. I find the guy (not THAT guy)
            repulsive in almost every way.

            He is visibly and verbally deteriorating. No one will
            have to kill him; he will expire all by himself (just
            like most of us I guess), but I openly wonder if he will
            survive to November 2028.

            bp

            <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

            On 9/20/2025 2:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:

                Trump is such a mixed bag for me.  I do like many of
                the policies.  I don’t find much to like about the man.

                *From:*AF <[email protected]>
                <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robert
                *Sent:* Saturday, September 20, 2025 2:47 PM
                *To:* [email protected]
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and
                "jawboning"

                I am guessing that wouldn't make Trump a hero to you....

                On 9/20/25 11:59 AM, [email protected] wrote:

                    I think it is pretty bad to vilify and judge
                    someone that you don't know








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