I do the same thing when working finance deals.  If the bank questions things 
they will require an independent appraisal.  

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 11:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

 

He inflated the value of properties when it suited him, and deflated the value 
of the same properties when it suited him. His accountant went to jail, even 
though he refused to testify. Donnie got away without jail time because "he 
didn't know anything about it". Yeah, sure.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 9/22/2025 10:47 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

If you are speaking to the net worth calculations for the purpose of financing, 
everyone tries to come up with the largest number they can when doing this.  
The bankers were 100% OK with it and they even said they did not suffer any 
damages and did not think the prosecution was legit.  So, the Donald applied a 
favorable valuation, the bank said OK, but the court said “not so fast now”.  
Yeah such a crime…

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 11:32 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

 

The fine was in the neighborhood of $700 to $800 million (I forget the actual 
amount). I think it was inflated because of his behavior, but I did not follow 
it that closely. The fine was invalidated, but I think it should have been 
reduced to something more appropriate. The felon made numerous threats to the 
judge in the case, and I don't think it played in his favor.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 9/22/2025 10:11 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:

Any other person this would have been a class "C" felony and jail for years and 
years.  Has he even paid his fine yet?  Who did he bribe?  Maybe it was an 
"offer they couldn't refuse"?

On 9/22/25 09:55, Steve Jones wrote:

"fraud" lol, where a never used rule was used? for "victims" that said they 
werent victims? 

100m is peanuts in those transactions.

that like a 256mb thumbdrive in a datacenter

 

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

His fraud was in the neighborhood of well over 100 million dollars. If that's 
no big deal to you, then you operate in a different financial mind space than 
99% of the US.

To me that is not in the same league as jay walking.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 9/22/2025 8:09 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

OK, on the felony thing:  It was 34 acts of posting a legal expense to a 
general ledger account that the extremely biased and politically motivated 
prosecutor, judge and jury found to be “improper”, as perhaps the GL account 
number offended their feng shui.  The IRS and the NY department of revenue were 
not offended.  Meh they said.  This was seriously thin soup.  But they got it 
rammed through.  All individually were misdemeanors.  Equivalent to jay walking 
or spitting your gum on the street.  

 

However NY has a rule that if you have enough misdemeanors in one pile you can 
convert them to a felony.  

 

So anyone saying: ” yeah that felon” gets a snicker and smirk from me.  Like, 
is that the best you can do?

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:34 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

 

34 count felon by several juries makes one want to give him a hug?  I have 
daughters and grand-daughters and I know he's been on that island with Jeffrey 
and on the Lolita express more than once by his own words.  That's another 
factoid that makes him disgusting to me.  Do you need more than juries to know 
you have to agree for a serial rapist to be put in jail?  How about the prisons 
in Utah?  You want them to release all the rapists because you personally don't 
know  and don't want to vilify/judge them?  I didn't personally meet Hitler nor 
Stalin, either.  I think that's pretty bad to give criminals that big of a 
break.  Rape, child rape, bank fraud, tax fraud, the list gets too extensive... 
because now it's escalated up to murder, multiple.  The only explanation is 
organized crime made a deal they (the GOP) couldn't refuse!  

On 9/21/25 12:09, Jan-GAMs wrote:

I am absolutely positive 90% of my ancestors fought in the revolution against 
King George and those same ancestors are rolling in their graves about how 
another usurper criminal felon King Don is in the whitehouse.  Absolutely 
positive about it.  Not at all mixed about it.  I didn't like him at all 30 
years ago, found his TV shows offensive, found everything about him to be rude, 
crud and lewd, repulsive in every way.  Only thing I can figure is the state of 
Nevada said he couldn't own a casino in their state because he was mafia and I 
agree with their opinion.  He must have made an offer to the GOP and Supreme 
court they couldn't refuse (godfather) and they took the offer.

On 9/21/25 11:22, Bill Prince wrote:

Not mixed at all for me. I find the guy (not THAT guy) repulsive in almost 
every way.

He is visibly and verbally deteriorating. No one will have to kill him; he will 
expire all by himself (just like most of us I guess), but I openly wonder if he 
will survive to November 2028.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 9/20/2025 2:24 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

Trump is such a mixed bag for me.  I do like many of the policies.  I don’t 
find much to like about the man.  

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 2:47 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

 

I am guessing that wouldn't make Trump a hero to you....

On 9/20/25 11:59 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

I think it is pretty bad to vilify and judge someone that you don't know

 

 

 

 






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