I didnt say what it applied to. Its called a nuisance suit for a reason.
Forced exposure of pmi would stand up to the get in the door test.
With how weird the courts have gotten in the last decade, they might even
win.

I give exactly zero doctors notes aside from when i renew my drivers
license.  Even when the schools tell me they need one for the kids, i email
them and ask where to send the invoice for the copay and the absense gets
changed to excused.

Not really cause i win the argument, they just dont want to deal with me

On Wed, Dec 3, 2025, 6:35 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> HIPAA rules apply to healthcare providers and some related businesses
> (like insurance).  Asking for a doctor’s note would not be an issue.
>
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Jones <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 2, 2025 9:39:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT tough love
>
> Doctors note is too much. Some scumbag may decide to go hipaa, cost you
> time and money beating it.
>
> Could be the personal issue is dopesick and shes dryingbot or detoxing
> him. Id rather hear a guy say this than lie.
>
> The best solution is get his address from hr, go cut him open to see if
> theres any signs of sickness. Afer the broad sees this, she will fall in
> line, no more call ins
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2025, 2:18 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The guy called his supervisor faking a sick voice at first, then he said
> his grandmother died, supervisor told him to send the obligatory note to HR
> with this info.  As soon as he was told that his voice was totally normal
> and he seemed happy.  This guy asked us to hire his girl friend as they
> could not cover rent.  This was a while back.  I told him that I almost
> never hire relatives but as his brother had worked for us in the past we
> had already bent that rule.  I said when we have issues with one of you it
> will affect both of you.  If we have to fire her it will cause him trouble
> at home.  I did it as a favor.
>
>
>
> This is the only second job she has ever had.  But she was trained by ms
> drama queen that got fired.  I think some of the attitude may have rubbed
> off on her.  He has had one formal write up.  Will get another one if she
> ever returns.  I am pretty sure she is on the exit ramp.  Usually they are
> not smart or humble enough to save themselves.
>
>
>
> But saying you are not coming to work because your boyfriend is not
> feeling well and is sad?  Now that we heard the grandmother story, if true,
> explains why he is sad and also explains the other personal reason for him
> not coming in.  Trying to balance compassion and common sense here.  She is
> not a key employee and was caught drawing images people flipping the bird
> on some of the containers at her work station.
>
>
>
> She just barely qualified for full time benefits, which includes insurance
> and PTO.  I guess she thinks PTO can be spent at will for whatever without
> advance notice.
>
>
>
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> Best Regards,
>
> Chuck McCown
>
> McCown Technology Corporation
>
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>
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>
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>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 2, 2025 12:37 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT tough love
>
>
>
> That's a good point.
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Seth Mattinen via AF <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 2, 2025 1:44 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Seth Mattinen <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT tough love
>
>
>
>
> Doctors notes cost money, if they can even get me in that quickly. My
> neurologist is a year out for appointments. So sure, I'll get right on
> that note when my MS acts up: in a year.
>
> If I have to pay urgent care $200 to get a note that's worth $25/hr for
> an 8 hour day. If it costs more than I'm getting paid for a note then
> I'll take the risk of getting fired since I'm losing money either way,
> at least I can argue the math to unemployment and get a hearing.
>
> Can employers requiring doctor notes be a worker's comp claim? I sure
> would try before spending my money.
>
> Besides, if you don't trust someone enough that you actually need notes
> like they're a child then why are they still working for you anyway?
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