>From my experience, I don’t think the “same data just spread out over more >time” argument holds water any more. It does for people downloading game >software, but 90% of traffic at peak times now is streaming video. Which is >not like Bit Torrent where you download and watch later. Some streaming >services like Netflix may switch to a lower quality stream, but you’re still >streaming in real time.
That logic worked better for web browsing and slow networks where you could say the customer is going to download that photo eventually, might as well let them do it quickly and get on and off your network. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, December 19, 2025 12:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] $40 Starlink tier already gone Again, limiting people to a lower speed does not reduce the load on the network, necessarily... Just spreads out the time that customers consume your airtime... I think they learned that lesson the hard way... On 12/19/25 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That would explain if they say Residential Lite is available but not Residential Standard. But it doesn’t explain why I can get the $80 and $120 plans, but can no longer get the $40 plan. If they have the capacity to sell me 250 or 400 Mbps, they must have the capacity to sell me 100 Mbps. It seems more like they tried airline ticket style pricing but failed to study how that works. The airlines sell standby tickets or last minute cheap tickets or “Saturday stay” tickets, because that way they bring in incremental revenue without cannibalizing full fare customers like business travelers. Or maybe they drank their own Koolaid and thought 100 Mbps was so stingy that only the people who couldn’t afford to pay more than $40/mo would sign up, so it would truly be incremental revenue. From: AF <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Friday, December 19, 2025 12:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] $40 Starlink tier already gone Because they can't upgrade their network in certain busy areas to handle the load, maximizing revenue for each area means that they really need to play per-area pricing / capacity games. On Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 10:45 a.m. Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Sounds like Uber surge pricing. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 12/19/2025 7:17 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That’s the thing, it’s location dependent. And not in the sense of we only have enough capacity in your area for Lite service. More like we don’t have excess capacity in your area so we aren’t going to try too hard to get your business. Checking right now for my home address (Chicago suburbs), I see the $40 service is not being offered, it was a couple weeks ago. But it says I can get deprioritized 250 Mbps Residential Lite for $80/mo or 400+ Mbps Residential for $120/mo. Both say $0 hardware cost, but $21.65 due today which I’m guessing is maybe shipping? It says if you cancel you have to return the rented equipment. It used to say a 12 month contract was required to get the $0 hardware. Starlink prices and speeds are like airline tickets or market price lobster, it varies depending on location and what day you check. Service plans are explained here: https://starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1728-44881-79?regionCode=US From: AF <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2025 10:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] $40 Starlink tier already gone At that price one would hope...but it's location dependent. On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 4:07 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: doesnt the 120 a month customer get free equipment now though? On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:41 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Because their $120/mo customers turned into $40/mo customers. On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:39 PM Nate Burke <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Had to drive up sales before the end of the quarter, and met the quota? On 12/18/2025 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Not my imagination. https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-quietly-removes-40-per-month-starlink-plan-in-the-us -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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