Pretty much every TV these days has streaming built into it. I can't remember the last time I talked to a customer that had a separate streaming device.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 10:21 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > I think streaming devices are moving from sticks toward boxes. And of > course Roku will now be Fox/Roku. > > > > Chromecast is gone. Google TV Streamer has an Ethernet port, I guess it > still has USB for power. USB-C, and it comes with a power supply. > > > > Fire TV still has sticks, although it seems there’s a Cube now. > > > > Roku still has sticks, but the Roku Ultra is like the Google TV Streamer. > > > > I guess there’s Apple TV and Nvidia Shield. And ONN for the budget minded. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2026 9:58 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation > > > > Maybe the thing I should be reflecting on is the fact that I regret their > TV not having a USB port to power the Roku. I was maybe 15-16 years old > when I started seeing USB on PC's, and there were almost no peripherals for > it. The idea of a TV with a USB port would have been ludicrous at the > time. When I was in elementary school, you could still buy a black and > white TV, and we actually had one in the kitchen. My mom used it to listen > to a show on it while she was making dinner. Put a USB port on that sucker > and plug in the Roku. I'll need to stop at Radio Shack and find an HDMI to > analog two-wire antenna converter. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:50 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation > > > > I hope so by now. On theirs you can turn off the TV and then turn it on a > few hours later and multiple episodes of your show played while the TV was > off. It's a Roku Express, but I'm not entirely sure how old it is. Old > enough that I think it only does 2.4ghz WiFi. Maybe I'll just buy them a > new one. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:47 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation > > > > I presume once the HDMI port goes idle Roku stops streaming. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2026 6:28 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation > > > > When I was still involved in fixed wireless I had the same feelings as Ken > about constant streaming for nobody. Airtime is finite. Channel capacity > is finite. Their electric bill doesn't concern me, but their constant data > usage for something frivolous does. Another one is if you have a Roku that > isn't powered from a USB port on the TV. If you turn off the TV without > stopping the Roku then it sits there streaming and auto-playing the next > episode while the TV isn't even on. My parents have done this. They have > an older Roku Express, and a TV with no USB ports. I'd hope by now they > have something in the Roku to detect if a monitor is not present on the > HDMI port and stop automatically, but the one they have doesn't do that. > > > > On FTTH we don't have to care about the data usage......at least not for > now. When they come up with an application that actually uses a gig we'll > have an issue. > > > > Side note on the IPv6: We've departed from ARIN standard and delegate a > /60. They still have up to 16 subnets if there's ever a reason to use > them. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Dennis -- LTI > Engineering via AF <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2026 7:46 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Dennis -- LTI Engineering <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation > > > > Well in all fairness, the TV draws, what 10 watts or something stupid like > that. Back in the day, light bulbs would draw at least 40, sometimes 60 > watts, and the big bad boys drew 100! 😊 > > > > Kinda the same way I feel about IPv6. Why give a customer a /48, when > they will just use maybe one /64. Its wasteful, they would be using > .00001% of what they were given, and therefore 99.9999% is wasted. This > occurred before, when we handed out /8s like crack. I do understand the > size but STILL, just is wasted. I still go around my house, turn off > lights, yes they are LED, but still do it. I still yell at my son when he > leaves a door open. As far as fido and cats needing sound, umm. Mine > sleep all day unless a leaf blows past the window then they are barking at > it, and the cat never moved. > > > > Lol > > > > > *Dennis Burgess* > *MikroTik Certified:* Trainer | Network Associate | Routing Engineer | > Wireless Engineer | Traffic Control Engineer | Inter-Networking Engineer | > Security Engineer | Enterprise Wireless Engineer > *Hurricane Electric:* IPv6 Sage > *Cambium Certified:* ePMP > *Author:* Learn RouterOS – Second Edition <https://shop.linktechs.net/126> > > Link Technologies, Inc. <http://www.linktechs.net/> – MikroTik & ISP > Support Services | Shop On-Line <https://shop.linktechs.net/> > 📞 Office: 314-735-0270 or 1-866-620-0074 > 📡 Create Wireless Coverage with www.towercoverage.com > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2026 6:44 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation > > > > I remember my parents telling us to turn off lights when we left the room, > and to close the front door rather than “air conditioning the outside”. > > > > Now I get customers who leave a TV streaming all day for the dogs while > they’re gone. That irks me because it seems wasteful. They have excuses > when I suggest playing a radio or telling Alexa to play music. I mean, if > it was cats, probably they watch the video and play with the birds and > strings and stuff. But supposedly the dogs just want something to listen > to. We have a cattle feed lot customer that plays a radio in the barns for > the cows, but radio is apparently good enough for cows. > > > > Internet is now something we don’t worry about wasting, like leaving a > light on or a faucet running. > > > > I guess I wouldn’t care if I didn’t get tech support calls about the app > on the Firestick not running all day and they get home and there’s no TV > for the dogs. What am I going to say, give the dogs our number and have > them call in when it happens? OK, Fido, have you tried unplugging it and > plugging it back in again? > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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