I had even more fun.  When i was in school we had these big tvs on carts.  And 
i had a universal remote control...

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From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" <[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation
Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2026 10:57 AM

Maybe the thing I should be reflecting on is the fact that I regret their TV 
not having a USB port to power the Roku.  I was maybe 15-16 years old when I 
started seeing USB on PC's, and there were almost no peripherals for it.  The 
idea of a TV with a USB port 
would have been ludicrous at the time.  When I was in elementary school, you 
could still buy a black and white TV, and we actually had one in the kitchen.  
My mom used it to listen to a show on it while she was making dinner.  Put a 
USB port on that sucker 
and plug in the Roku.  I'll need to stop at Radio Shack and find an HDMI to 
analog two-wire antenna converter.












From: Adam Moffett <[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:50 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation 







I hope so by now.  On theirs you can turn off the TV and then turn it on a few 
hours later and multiple episodes of your show played while the TV was off.   
It's a Roku Express, but I'm not entirely sure how old it is.  Old enough that 
I think it only does 
2.4ghz WiFi.  Maybe I'll just buy them a new one.












From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] 
<[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:47 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation







I presume once the HDMI port goes idle Roku stops streaming.  

















From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 6:28 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation






When I was still involved in fixed wireless I had the same feelings as Ken 
about constant streaming for nobody.  Airtime is finite.  Channel capacity is 
finite.  Their electric bill doesn't concern me, but their constant data usage 
for something frivolous does.  
Another one is if you have a Roku that isn't powered from a USB port on the TV. 
 If you turn off the TV without stopping the Roku then it sits there streaming 
and auto-playing the next episode while the TV isn't even on.  My parents have 
done this.  They have 
an older Roku Express, and a TV with no USB ports.  I'd hope by now they have 
something in the Roku to detect if a monitor is not present on the HDMI port 
and stop automatically, but the one they have doesn't do that.







On FTTH we don't have to care about the data usage......at least not for now.  
When they come up with an application that actually uses a gig we'll have an 
issue.







Side note on the IPv6:  We've departed from ARIN standard and delegate a /60.  
They still have up to 16 subnets if there's ever a reason to use them.  












From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Dennis -- LTI Engineering via 
AF <[email protected]>

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 7:46 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>

Cc: Dennis -- LTI Engineering <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation






Well in all fairness, the TV draws, what 10 watts or something stupid like 
that.  Back in the day, light bulbs would 
draw at least 40, sometimes 60 watts, and the big bad boys drew 100! 😊  

Kinda the same way I feel about IPv6.  Why give a customer a /48, when they 
will just use maybe one /64.  Its wasteful, 
they would be using .00001% of what they were given, and therefore 99.9999% is 
wasted.  This occurred before, when we handed out /8s like crack.  I do 
understand the size but STILL, just is wasted.     I still go around my house, 
turn off lights, yes they 
are LED, but still do it.  I still yell at my son when he leaves a door open.   
  As far as fido and cats needing sound, umm. Mine sleep all day unless a leaf 
blows past the window then they are barking at it, and the cat never moved.  

Lol 

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From: AF <[email protected]> 
On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2026 6:44 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>

Subject: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation 



I remember my parents telling us to turn off lights when we left the room, and 
to close the front door rather than ā€œair conditioning the outsideā€. 

Now I get customers who leave a TV streaming all day for the dogs while they’re 
gone.  That irks me because it seems wasteful.  They have excuses when 
I suggest playing a radio or telling Alexa to play music.  I mean, if it was 
cats, probably they watch the video and play with the birds and strings and 
stuff.  But supposedly the dogs just want something to listen to.  We have a 
cattle feed lot customer that 
plays a radio in the barns for the cows, but radio is apparently good enough 
for cows. 

Internet is now something we don’t worry about wasting, like leaving a light on 
or a faucet running. 

I guess I wouldn’t care if I didn’t get tech support calls about the app on the 
Firestick not running all day and they get home and there’s no TV for 
the dogs.  What am I going to say, give the dogs our number and have them call 
in when it happens?  OK, Fido, have you tried unplugging it and plugging it 
back in again?
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