We had 16mm projectors, slide projectors and overhead projectors. No Tvs. First time I saw TV in a school it was a moon mission. Probably 1969.
One HS science teacher used overheads for every class. Someone snuck into the room and put a centerfold on the screen and let it roll up. Fun day. He never looked at the screen initially... ________________________________ From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 8:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation I had even more fun. When i was in school we had these big tvs on carts. And i had a universal remote control... ----- Reply message ----- From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2026 10:57 AM Maybe the thing I should be reflecting on is the fact that I regret their TV not having a USB port to power the Roku. I was maybe 15-16 years old when I started seeing USB on PC's, and there were almost no peripherals for it. The idea of a TV with a USB port would have been ludicrous at the time. When I was in elementary school, you could still buy a black and white TV, and we actually had one in the kitchen. My mom used it to listen to a show on it while she was making dinner. Put a USB port on that sucker and plug in the Roku. I'll need to stop at Radio Shack and find an HDMI to analog two-wire antenna converter. ________________________________ From: Adam Moffett <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:50 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation I hope so by now. On theirs you can turn off the TV and then turn it on a few hours later and multiple episodes of your show played while the TV was off. It's a Roku Express, but I'm not entirely sure how old it is. Old enough that I think it only does 2.4ghz WiFi. Maybe I'll just buy them a new one. ________________________________ From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 10:47 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation I presume once the HDMI port goes idle Roku stops streaming. ________________________________ From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 6:28 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation When I was still involved in fixed wireless I had the same feelings as Ken about constant streaming for nobody. Airtime is finite. Channel capacity is finite. Their electric bill doesn't concern me, but their constant data usage for something frivolous does. Another one is if you have a Roku that isn't powered from a USB port on the TV. If you turn off the TV without stopping the Roku then it sits there streaming and auto-playing the next episode while the TV isn't even on. My parents have done this. They have an older Roku Express, and a TV with no USB ports. I'd hope by now they have something in the Roku to detect if a monitor is not present on the HDMI port and stop automatically, but the one they have doesn't do that. On FTTH we don't have to care about the data usage......at least not for now. When they come up with an application that actually uses a gig we'll have an issue. Side note on the IPv6: We've departed from ARIN standard and delegate a /60. They still have up to 16 subnets if there's ever a reason to use them. ________________________________ From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Dennis -- LTI Engineering via AF <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2026 7:46 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Cc: Dennis -- LTI Engineering <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation Well in all fairness, the TV draws, what 10 watts or something stupid like that. Back in the day, light bulbs would draw at least 40, sometimes 60 watts, and the big bad boys drew 100! š Kinda the same way I feel about IPv6. Why give a customer a /48, when they will just use maybe one /64. Its wasteful, they would be using .00001% of what they were given, and therefore 99.9999% is wasted. This occurred before, when we handed out /8s like crack. I do understand the size but STILL, just is wasted. I still go around my house, turn off lights, yes they are LED, but still do it. I still yell at my son when he leaves a door open. As far as fido and cats needing sound, umm. Mine sleep all day unless a leaf blows past the window then they are barking at it, and the cat never moved. Lol Dennis Burgess MikroTik Certified: Trainer | Network Associate | Routing Engineer | Wireless Engineer | Traffic Control Engineer | Inter-Networking Engineer | Security Engineer | Enterprise Wireless Engineer Hurricane Electric: IPv6 Sage Cambium Certified: ePMP Author: Learn RouterOS ā Second Edition<https://shop.linktechs.net/126> Link Technologies, Inc.<http://www.linktechs.net/> ā MikroTik & ISP Support Services | Shop On-Line<https://shop.linktechs.net/> š Office: 314-735-0270 or 1-866-620-0074 š” Create Wireless Coverage with www.towercoverage.com<http://www.towercoverage.com/> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 15, 2026 6:44 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] I must be from the wrong generation I remember my parents telling us to turn off lights when we left the room, and to close the front door rather than āair conditioning the outsideā. Now I get customers who leave a TV streaming all day for the dogs while theyāre gone. That irks me because it seems wasteful. They have excuses when I suggest playing a radio or telling Alexa to play music. I mean, if it was cats, probably they watch the video and play with the birds and strings and stuff. But supposedly the dogs just want something to listen to. We have a cattle feed lot customer that plays a radio in the barns for the cows, but radio is apparently good enough for cows. Internet is now something we donāt worry about wasting, like leaving a light on or a faucet running. I guess I wouldnāt care if I didnāt get tech support calls about the app on the Firestick not running all day and they get home and thereās no TV for the dogs. What am I going to say, give the dogs our number and have them call in when it happens? OK, Fido, have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in again?
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