--- [ That One Guy <[email protected]> wrote ] ----------------------------------- I want my money back with interest
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Animal Farm <[email protected]> wrote: > --- [ "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote ] > ----------------------------------- > Strange, if I look up SMTP connection caching, it says it can't be used > with TLS. > > -----Original Message----- From: Animal Farm > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:06 PM > To: Ken Hohhof > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] spam > > --- [ "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <[email protected]> wrote ] > ----------------------------------- > Well, at least we got you back, Chuck! Your presence offsets my anger > for the new list headaches. Trying to be helpful with the issues. Sorry > if I'm complaining too much. > > Paul, you might want to send that log file output from my mail server to > someone at Amazon about the missing SMTP QUIT commands. That breaks the > RFC and my mail server obviously doesn't like that, which I can't change > because the connection rate-limiting is very helpful in stopping or > slowing down attacks. I don't know what would cause SMTP commands to be > dropped on their end. Anyway.. I don't touch our cPanel server unless > it's absolutely necessary. Usually cPanel themselves break stuff and I > make them log in and fix it. > > Here's some more from a few minutes ago: > 2014-09-15 12:47:08 SMTP command timeout on TLS connection from > a9-109.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.109]:55967 > 2014-09-15 12:47:08 H=a9-109.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.109]:55967 > Warning: "Connection Ratelimit - a9-109.smtp-out.amazonses.com > [54.240.9.109]:55967 because of notquit: command-timeout (1.8/1h max:1.2)" > 2014-09-15 12:47:29 SMTP command timeout on TLS connection from > a9-91.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.91]:37510 > 2014-09-15 12:49:30 SMTP command timeout on TLS connection from > a9-110.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.110]:49199 > 2014-09-15 12:49:30 H=a9-110.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.110]:49199 > Warning: "Connection Ratelimit - a9-110.smtp-out.amazonses.com > [54.240.9.110]:49199 because of notquit: command-timeout (2.6/1h max:1.2)" > 2014-09-15 12:49:50 SMTP command timeout on TLS connection from > a9-41.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.41]:39221 > 2014-09-15 12:50:22 H=a9-91.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.9.91]:38738 > Warning: Sender rate 3.6 / 1h > > On 9/15/2014 12:33 PM, Animal Farm wrote: > >> --- [ "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote ] >> ----------------------------------- >> Guys, Paul is doing this out of the goodness of his heart too. This ain't >> exactly a profit center for him. Please be kind. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Animal Farm >> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:08 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] spam >> >> --- [ Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote ] >> ----------------------------------- >> George, >> >> Please be aware that we are looking at ALL of this actively. I am not >> going to post every 30 seconds to respond to every individual post, but >> there are 2 people in our office "on it" and we will work through whatever >> issues are there, make adjustments as needed. First glance at the "thread >> headers" issue is that the only two "standard options" within Mailman for >> this, are indeed set to initiate that. >> >> Amazon does not have a "list server". Amazon is a complete development >> environment yet it is a "blank slate". >> >> Again, please be patient... breathe :) >> >> Paul >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:02 PM >> To: Paul McCall >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] spam >> >> --- [ "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <[email protected]> wrote ] >> ----------------------------------- >> Plus messages are extremely delayed. And I'll get replies to stuff before >> I see my own post. >> >> Oh, I see Amazon list serv is Mailman. Maybe there's some options to >> tweak? >> >> On 9/15/2014 10:49 AM, Animal Farm wrote: >> >>> --- [ "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <[email protected]> wrote ] >>> ----------------------------------- >>> Thunderbird, which only looks at the thread headers. I believe Gmail >>> figures it out by subject as well as the thread header. And I don't >>> really want to move my list subscriptions to my Google Apps email. >>> >>> It looks like the first message of a new thread/subject does not have >>> any Thread headers. The message Ken sent a little while ago about >>> surge suppression between a SyncInjector and SyncPipe did not have >>> thread headers. But any replies seem to get the them. Nope, I take >>> that back. The two replies to the Official Announcement subject from >>> Jaime and Forrest do not have thread headers. Is the client stripping >>> them, or is it the list server? Seems it's the list server because >>> that's the only thing that changed. Sorry to be a PITA, but this is >>> highly annoying. >>> >>> On 9/15/2014 10:09 AM, Animal Farm wrote: >>> >>>> --- [ Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote ] >>>> ----------------------------------- >>>> George, >>>> >>>> What client are you using that would seem to not be working right >>>> with threads? I only use Outlook and Gmail and it seems to be >>>> working right for both of those. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:06 AM >>>> To: Paul McCall >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] spam >>>> >>>> --- [ "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" <[email protected]> wrote >>>> ] >>>> ----------------------------------- >>>> Put it back the way it was.... (yes, I know, I read the other thread, >>>> but I don't have to like it). >>>> >>>> And it looks like threads are broken or the thread ID header is >>>> nonexistent. >>>> >>>> #IHateMondays >>>> #IDontDoHashTags >>>> >>>> On 9/15/2014 9:50 AM, Animal Farm wrote: >>>> >>>>> --- [ Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote ] >>>>> ----------------------------------- >>>>> I think some dude named Animal Farm is spamming the list >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
