The new one is supposed to be considerably better.

On Friday, September 19, 2014, Micah Miller via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have the 2013 version of the Moto X.  It does have have crapware,
> but minimal.  It's pretty much just verizons' voicemail, navigator,
> music?, and nfl network.  Those are all easily disabled so you never
> see them  again.
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Jason McKemie via Af <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Yeah, the next Nexus phone is rumored to be based on the Moto X.
> >
> > On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> That's because the Nexus 5 is a good device with a "pure" android build.
> >> The Moto X is the same way.
> >>
> >> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> >> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
> >>
> >> On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've got a One Plus One, but still prefer my Nexus 5. The software
> makes
> >>> all the difference.
> >>>
> >>> On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5"
> screen,
> >>>> unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware.
> >>>>
> >>>> faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM.
> >>>>
> >>>> $350 if you can get an invite.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <
> [email protected] <javascript:;>
> >>>> <javascript:;>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  Agree.  I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g
> phone
> >>>>> and when I did, it came off Ebay.  Still have that phone...used
> PDAnet
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I
> knew
> >>>>> i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>    From: Ken Hohhof via Af
> >>>>>    To: [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM
> >>>>>    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to
> this....cellular
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not
> explain
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>    people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for
> the
> >>>>> higher
> >>>>>    speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan.  I believe the
> >>>>>    transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse.  I'm not
> >>>>> sure
> >>>>> why,
> >>>>>    maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to
> >>>>> 4G.
> >>>>> But
> >>>>>    people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in
> the
> >>>>>    toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> sign
> >>>>>    a new contract with the company that's responsible for their
> crappy
> >>>>> service.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this.
> Like
> >>>>>
> >>>> we
> >>>>
> >>>>>    sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10
> >>>>> year
> >>>>> old
> >>>>>    router that they need to upgrade.  But really, they should have
> some
> >>>>> kind of
> >>>>>    program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with
> come
> >>>>>
> >>>> kind
> >>>>
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>    discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a
> >>>>> WISP!),
> >>>>>    because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>    From: Chris Wright via Af
> >>>>>    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM
> >>>>>    To: [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to
> this....cellular
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more
> bad
> >>>>> press
> >>>>>    than it's worth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Chris Wright
> >>>>>    Velociter Wireless
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>    From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris <javascript:;> <javascript:;>=
> >>>>>
> >>>> [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of
> >>>>
> >>>>>    CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
> >>>>>    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM
> >>>>>    To: [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>; [email protected]
> <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >>>>>    Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Ok, so, when you have an "unlimited card" and you're lucky to
> never
> >>>>>
> >>>> have
> >>>>
> >>>>>    purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't /
> why
> >>>>> DOESN'T
> >>>>>    the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you
> >>>>> onto
> >>>>>    something else?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Is it a billing issue?  Something their systems can't handle?
>  I've
> >>>>> always
> >>>>>    wondered why that is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Surely it's not something "legal", unless it's the fact you
> signed a
> >>>>>    contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change
> the
> >>>>>
> >>>> plan
> >>>>
> >>>>> off
> >>>>>    what you signed up for?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    (hey! that makes sense...actually)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you
> >>>>> must
> >>>>> sign
> >>>>>    up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated?
> >>>>>    Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Micah Miller
> Network/Server Administrator
> Network Business Systems, Inc.
> Phone: 309-944-8823
>

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