Yeah, but the benefit of the performant method is you use both paths at the same time, and if you have a voip productsegregated by vlan, you can force it to take the lowest latency path.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

On 10/16/2014 10:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
Detect wireless fade and automatically route traffic to the most efficient path. You can't do that with mpls-te


right, you want radios that will do link state propagation to the router for that, which most carrier grade FDD backhauls will do. When a link fades below a certain threshold, turn off the interface so that from the perspective of two routers operating an OSPF /30 between two gigE interfaces, it looks like a cut cable. Thereby causing traffic to take another path.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Detect wireless fade and automatically route traffic to the most
    efficient path. You can't do that with mpls-te, and you can't get
    as low as a latency as these things have even with fastpath.

    That's the shame of it, had they finished it it would have been a
    great product, although they used the "wrong" base technology. It
    should have been built on SBP or TRILL to allow for the
    traditional mesh design, instead of ITU G.3082v2 which requires rings.

    Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
    SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

    On 10/16/2014 08:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
    Solution in search of a problem. What did it claim to do that you
    can't do with a properly designed OSPF + BGP + MPLS (and VRF)
    capable network?

    Then again, I don't use Mikrotik routers, I use power hungry
    Cisco or Juniper gear so I don't have to deal with Mikrotik's
    wonky implementation of BGP and MPLS.

    On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        We pulled it off our network last week. Bunch of money down
        the drain.

        Not happy with the way Accedian handled this, on multiple
        fronts. It's not like they were strapped for cash.

        Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
        SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

        On 10/16/2014 04:32 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:
        We are going �to toss them

        Gino A. Villarini
        @gvillarini



        On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Chris Wright via Af
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        1.2.8.6_21016 released in June of this year.
        http://forum.performantnetworks.com/threads/2015.1438/

        �

        Chris Wright

        Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>

        �

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
        *Matthew Jenkins via Af
        *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:20 PM
        *To:* Timothy D. McNabb via Af
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes

        �

        I have a tub of equipment I really wanted to deploy. It's
        not being actively developed, so I have not deployed it.
        Are you running the latest software?




        -------- Original message --------
        From: "Timothy D. McNabb via Af" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Date: 10/16/2014 1:58 PM (GMT-07:00)
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes

        Does anyone here on the list use Performant Nurons/Mind
        combination? What did you find worked best?

        �

        -Tim

        �

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
        *Chris Wright via Af
        *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 5:00 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Accedian/Performant/R-Flo woes

        �

        We�ve been sitting on a Performant Mind and four Nurons
        for almost a year now. They sat for six months, then I
        spent another six months tinkering with them here and
        there. Regardless of their EOL, we�re looking to
        implement � but I�m running into the silliest of
        issues. I can�t even get traffic from the Mind to a Nuron
        to pass without 20% packet loss. This is without any
        routing, wireless backhauls, nothing. Just a VLAN-tagged
        NIC plugged straight into the Mind, Ethernet from Mind to a
        Nuron (where the vlan �pops�), then Ethernet to a
        second computer.

        �

        I�ve replaced the SFP adapters, the nuron, and verified
        none of the Ethernet cables are bad by literally coupling
        them all down a line and going straight from computer 1 to
        computer 2. No issue there.

        �

        This, combined with the fact that this stuff is going to be
        EOL in three years, is maddening. My boss was under the
        impression that this should be able to seamlessly integrate
        into our star topology (nuron at every tower making a
        ring), but we can�t even get basic LAN functions to work
        reliably.

        �

        Chris Wright

        Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>

        �






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