Assuming channels are available (for either XPIC implementation). ;-)
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel White via Af" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:39:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently That we have announced, of course. Of course we also don't announce radios then don't have inventory for 6 months either. We don't even talk roadmap under NDA for things that are less than a realistic 6 months out. FYI Integra does support LAG (or PLA as other vendors call it) and I'd also argue 2+0 at $10k less is a lot more attractive than 1+0 with no hardware redundancy. And no software keys. And a 5 year warranty. Our 11GHz implementation is coming along very well. Trust me, the wait will be worth it. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently > > Last time I looked at SAF Integra it didn't do 1gig in 11ghz on one channel > with > XPIC. Also I don't have to combine the data at the bottom of the tower. Its > all > one radio interface which is much easier for routing. For us those were huge > requirements. Exalt has done that for a couple of years. PTP820c looks better > since it will have full QoS control and OAM. > > Matthew Jenkins > SmarterBroadband > [email protected] > 530.272.4000 > > On 10/29/2014 10:28 AM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: > > matt i'd suggest looking at the SAF integra. You could almost buy 2 > > links for the prices you quoted from the other brands ;-) > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I > > am using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM > > features. > > > > Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k) > > Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k) > > Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about > > $35k?) > > > > Matthew Jenkins > > SmarterBroadband > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > 530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000> > > > > On 10/28/2014 10:41 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote: > > > > What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? > > I'm assuming it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+? > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > Or thereabouts. Our newest link was engineered for -43. > > No smoke. > > > > bp > > > > On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: > > > > What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff > > I've dealt > > with has been engineered to be hotter than -40. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC > > > omputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent > - > > computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke via Af" <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig > > licensed > > radio currently > > > > yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the > > threshold > > required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down > > to 256QAM > > and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio? > > > > If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of > > something like > > -57.5 to operate at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM > > radio at -63 > > or thereabouts. Not much fade margin. Not something > > you can > > reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link > > pretending to be > > a fiber patch cable between two routers. > > > > Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with > > 60cm size > > antennas and the normal RSL is -35.0.... > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5 > > miles, one > > 60Mhz > > frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using > > 2048QAM, uses two > > cores > > (same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a > > combiner on the > > antenna. Looks like any other single FODU > > install, very > > clean. Not > > inexpensive however. > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > Cambium PTP820c > > > Exalt ExtremeAir > > > > > > Both will give you 1gig in a single radio. > > > > > > Matthew Jenkins > > > SmarterBroadband > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > 530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000> > > <tel:530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>> > > > > > > On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links > > lately, which > > is the best > > >> bargain? > > >> > > >> *Peter Kranz > > >> *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd > > >> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com> > > <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com> > > <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> > > >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > > <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> > > >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000> > > <tel:510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>> > > >> [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
